All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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@Frank at least the Titanic sunk quicker than this coaching team!
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
All media was barred from live streaming it. From a PR perspective it is just a dumb decision.
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i for one am comforted that the right people are there, and all that is required is some changes.
of course, i would be a lot more comforted if the same people hadn't have been there late last year, and the same changes weren't needed. but, you know, the fuck do i know?
but i am not sure what people were expecting? 2 weeks until the next test, with the 2022 plans only 3 weeks old? No way they can change things now. Any changes for the next test will be minimal, in terms or players or plan. The same structural deficiencies will exist, but there will be focus on "doing the same shit but better"
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Speaking at today's media conference, Foster said he was still the All Blacks head coach and in the past few days the team had developed a clear plan forward.
He said the All Blacks did not achieve what they should have in the series against Ireland and "robust conversations" have been held since with New Zealand Rugby management.
He said he had heard there needed to be change and he was working behind the scenes to achieve that, though he would not say what those changes will be.
"You can ask me a hundred times what that is and I won't be able to give you an answer just yet. I'd like you to bear with me, but we've got things in place right now and as soon as I can let you know a couple changes I'll let you know as soon as possible."
@antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Speaking at today's media conference, Foster said he was still the All Blacks head coach and in the past few days the team had developed a clear plan forward.
He said the All Blacks did not achieve what they should have in the series against Ireland and "robust conversations" have been held since with New Zealand Rugby management.
He said he had heard there needed to be change and he was working behind the scenes to achieve that, though he would not say what those changes will be.
"You can ask me a hundred times what that is and I won't be able to give you an answer just yet. I'd like you to bear with me, but we've got things in place right now and as soon as I can let you know a couple changes I'll let you know as soon as possible."
In plain English, he does not know.
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i for one am comforted that the right people are there, and all that is required is some changes.
of course, i would be a lot more comforted if the same people hadn't have been there late last year, and the same changes weren't needed. but, you know, the fuck do i know?
but i am not sure what people were expecting? 2 weeks until the next test, with the 2022 plans only 3 weeks old? No way they can change things now. Any changes for the next test will be minimal, in terms or players or plan. The same structural deficiencies will exist, but there will be focus on "doing the same shit but better"
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
i for one am comforted that the right people are there, and all that is required is some changes.
of course, i would be a lot more comforted if the same people hadn't have been there late last year, and the same changes weren't needed. but, you know, the fuck do i know?
but i am not sure what people were expecting? 2 weeks until the next test, with the 2022 plans only 3 weeks old? No way they can change things now. Any changes for the next test will be minimal, in terms or players or plan. The same structural deficiencies will exist, but there will be focus on "doing the same shit but better"
Thanks Michael Cheika
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realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
They're normally live streamed, most interviews are. It's the squad announcement!
I’m asking about SENZ live-streaming all announcements? Does that happen all the time?
All Blacks official media channels live-streamed it.
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@Frye I thought the Facebook channel had it? Not that I was looking.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frye I thought the Facebook channel had it? Not that I was looking.
Nah. They only live stream things when everything is going well.
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realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
@mariner4life add a gameplan and streaks ahead of the Irish tour!
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Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.@Frank fake news, like sacking Cane.
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Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.Sounds like they're working through the HR processes. Hopefully the feedback received in the last few days has made it clear who isn't doing their job to the required level. Especially those who haven't improved from last year.
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i for one am comforted that the right people are there, and all that is required is some changes.
of course, i would be a lot more comforted if the same people hadn't have been there late last year, and the same changes weren't needed. but, you know, the fuck do i know?
but i am not sure what people were expecting? 2 weeks until the next test, with the 2022 plans only 3 weeks old? No way they can change things now. Any changes for the next test will be minimal, in terms or players or plan. The same structural deficiencies will exist, but there will be focus on "doing the same shit but better"
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
i for one am comforted that the right people are there, and all that is required is some changes.
of course, i would be a lot more comforted if the same people hadn't have been there late last year, and the same changes weren't needed. but, you know, the fuck do i know?
but i am not sure what people were expecting? 2 weeks until the next test, with the 2022 plans only 3 weeks old? No way they can change things now. Any changes for the next test will be minimal, in terms or players or plan. The same structural deficiencies will exist, but there will be focus on "doing the same shit but better"
Hansen ball. The same shit but better - trouble is it hasn’t been better, it’s been worse. We haven’t improved since last World Cup. Times running out to find that magic formula.
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@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.Sounds like they're working through the HR processes. Hopefully the feedback received in the last few days has made it clear who isn't doing their job to the required level. Especially those who haven't improved from last year.
@antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.Sounds like they're working through the HR processes. Hopefully the feedback received in the last few days has made it clear who isn't doing their job to the required level. Especially those who haven't improved from last year.
Absolutely, pretty hard to fire someone anywhere without a payout unless you demonstrate sustained failure of your KPIs and no improvement. While it may seem obvious to us what failure looks like, what is written in their own objectives might not be so black and white. They will be walking through the process and ticking all the boxes to legally fire someone minimal payout
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@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
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@booboo said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Frizell?
Not surprised at all mate, I always suspected he would get back in, as I have said we need a six who carries close to the breakdown to give a target, whether he plays or not we will see, just not surprised he there.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.Sounds like they're working through the HR processes. Hopefully the feedback received in the last few days has made it clear who isn't doing their job to the required level. Especially those who haven't improved from last year.
Absolutely, pretty hard to fire someone anywhere without a payout unless you demonstrate sustained failure of your KPIs and no improvement. While it may seem obvious to us what failure looks like, what is written in their own objectives might not be so black and white. They will be walking through the process and ticking all the boxes to legally fire someone minimal payout
@bayimports said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.Sounds like they're working through the HR processes. Hopefully the feedback received in the last few days has made it clear who isn't doing their job to the required level. Especially those who haven't improved from last year.
Absolutely, pretty hard to fire someone anywhere without a payout unless you demonstrate sustained failure of your KPIs and no improvement. While it may seem obvious to us what failure looks like, what is written in their own objectives might not be so black and white. They will be walking through the process and ticking all the boxes to legally fire someone minimal payout
plus replacements might have to get out out of their own contracts
