All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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@antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.Sounds like they're working through the HR processes. Hopefully the feedback received in the last few days has made it clear who isn't doing their job to the required level. Especially those who haven't improved from last year.
Absolutely, pretty hard to fire someone anywhere without a payout unless you demonstrate sustained failure of your KPIs and no improvement. While it may seem obvious to us what failure looks like, what is written in their own objectives might not be so black and white. They will be walking through the process and ticking all the boxes to legally fire someone minimal payout
@bayimports said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@antipodean said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frank said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Are assistant coach changes actually happening?
Or was this not the time to announce this?
Confused.Sounds like they're working through the HR processes. Hopefully the feedback received in the last few days has made it clear who isn't doing their job to the required level. Especially those who haven't improved from last year.
Absolutely, pretty hard to fire someone anywhere without a payout unless you demonstrate sustained failure of your KPIs and no improvement. While it may seem obvious to us what failure looks like, what is written in their own objectives might not be so black and white. They will be walking through the process and ticking all the boxes to legally fire someone minimal payout
plus replacements might have to get out out of their own contracts
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realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
Selecting PT and Frizzell in squad again troubles me. Lots of possible game day changes from squad and with tactics still possible. We will see.
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@Crucial yep let’s get TJP back, along with Frizzel, Tuipoluto, DMac, Squire, Weber, Aumua all the band back for a reunion tour
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Crucial yep let’s get TJP back, along with Frizzel, Tuipoluto, DMac, Squire, Weber, Aumua all the band back for a reunion tour
Shakes head
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https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1550304001115422720
Better option to cover lock/blindside than a proven Test failure and beater of women. Seriously, WTF are they thinking selecting him?
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
All media was barred from live streaming it. From a PR perspective it is just a dumb decision.
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
All media was barred from live streaming it. From a PR perspective it is just a dumb decision.
So they took the Friday afternoon presser to the next level!
Sheesh what bright spark thought that was a good idea. No point now trying to control the message and being worried how outlets cut and dice it, you are 5 lengths back in the home straight.
My advice is that you could’ve come out of this slightly better with some in the public saying “he fronted” and there could’ve been a sympathy element if he looked awkward and under the pump for all to see.
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
All media was barred from live streaming it. From a PR perspective it is just a dumb decision.
So they took the Friday afternoon presser to the next level!
Sheesh what bright spark thought that was a good idea. No point now trying to control the message and being worried how outlets cut and dice it, you are 5 lengths back in the home straight.
My advice is that you could’ve come out of this slightly better with some in the public saying “he fronted” and there could’ve been a sympathy element if he looked awkward and under the pump for all to see.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
All media was barred from live streaming it. From a PR perspective it is just a dumb decision.
So they took the Friday afternoon presser to the next level!
Sheesh what bright spark thought that was a good idea. No point now trying to control the message and being worried how outlets cut and dice it, you are 5 lengths back in the home straight.
My advice is that you could’ve come out of this slightly better with some in the public saying “he fronted” and there could’ve been a sympathy element if he looked awkward and under the pump for all to see.
I'd meant to reply to your post earlier saying that the only way the Friday press conference ploy could have been better was if they'd found a way to make it before a long weekend.
But full credit to them, they still found an unexpected way to raise the Friday arvo stakes...
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@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
I reckon we will do better than that. Backs against the wall and all that.
According to me we win at least one in SA and both vs the Argies. I'll say share the Bled, games, but actually Rennie worries me.
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@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
I reckon we will do better than that. Backs against the wall and all that.
According to me we win at least one in SA and both vs the Argies. I'll say share the Bled, games, but actually Rennie worries me.
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
All media was barred from live streaming it. From a PR perspective it is just a dumb decision.
So they took the Friday afternoon presser to the next level!
Sheesh what bright spark thought that was a good idea. No point now trying to control the message and being worried how outlets cut and dice it, you are 5 lengths back in the home straight.
My advice is that you could’ve come out of this slightly better with some in the public saying “he fronted” and there could’ve been a sympathy element if he looked awkward and under the pump for all to see.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SENZ radio said the PR team at NZR refused to let media live stream the press conference. This is just really dumb media relations. The organisation is looking completely incompetent.
I don’t know all the ins and outs of SENZ and NZRU, but do they always live stream every team announcement?
If not, then it’s hard to see that this isn’t just more games to add to the narrative building.
All media was barred from live streaming it. From a PR perspective it is just a dumb decision.
So they took the Friday afternoon presser to the next level!
Sheesh what bright spark thought that was a good idea. No point now trying to control the message and being worried how outlets cut and dice it, you are 5 lengths back in the home straight.
My advice is that you could’ve come out of this slightly better with some in the public saying “he fronted” and there could’ve been a sympathy element if he looked awkward and under the pump for all to see.
It is a strange mix of ignorance and arrogance. I'm of a position you treat set up every media conference to be live streamed until the all attending outlets confirm they won't do it. Also, once it is live streamed, everything is stated and can't be disputed. It is the huge benefit of livestreaming.
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@Chris-B said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Backs against the wall and all that.
Heard that one many times before with this mob!
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If they're not going to play Sotutu until Argentina at the earliest, it might be good to get him some kind of game time.
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Statement from NZ Rugby boss Mark Robinson following the squad announcement:
"The past fortnight has been a challenging time for us and of course our fans.
“There have been some thorough conversations this week, as there always are around our performance environments, and these will continue.
“It’s exciting to be heading back to South Africa for the first time in several years - we have two big games ahead of us there and our focus now is to support the team to improve performance and be successful.””
I fucking knew it!
@Machpants LOL
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@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
@Machpants said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Frye said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
SA paying $2.75 to win the RC. Get on it.
Not sure about that but I will be backing the Wobs to win the Bledisloe if Cooper is fit again.
Only 2 bled games this year, one at Eden park, Oz need to win both. Even foster follies will probably retain the bled. My prediction, 2 losses Vs SA, shared games Vs Oz and Arg. World ranking 7th by the end
Foster keeps lowering the bar. A loss at Eden Park is absolutely on the cards.
Bank on it.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
realistically, what actual changes are available up front?
Bower will deservedly stay
ST can come in to hooker
Both our tightheads are shit
Retallick is out so Barrett in with Whitelock
Cane is captain and Ardie must start so that means a change at 6? or Save shifts to 6 and a new #8 brought inThat's it. That's what can be done.
That's a realistic assessment.
For all the wailing, there's no Jesus forwards waiting in the wings. I'm somewhat desperately and even hypocritically (because I've never been a massive fan) suggesting Jager, because he might be marginally better than what we've picked.
Having stuck with Sam Cane, we're going to be stuck with an unbalanced loose trio.
Sami T. can provide some modest improvement at hooker.
The big call they could have made is to bring in the unready Crusaders props - Newell and Williams - at least as apprentices - in the hope that by this time next year they'll be test ready.
There's a bit more that can be done in the backs.
