All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship
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@Steve @The-Irishman said in All Blacks vs Ireland - series decider:
Interesting his take on Bower, whom many here thought he was one of the better AB players on Saturday.
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Who was advising Foster on this presser? “I’m resilient.. I’m strategic” WTH?
He sounds like someone who is under immense pressure and doesn’t have a plan. How do we know? Because he said as much..he’d let us know when he figures it out.
The selections are at least consistent and most I agree with. As far as I know we don’t have any superstars that are hiding out and haven’t been selected other than Mackenzie.
Frizell is a waste of a loosie spot they could’ve given to Grace, Jacobson or even retained PGS. Frizell looks good at Super rugby and ordinary at test level.
Laulala should’ve been dropped after his 3rd test performance.
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Who was advising Foster on this presser? “I’m resilient.. I’m strategic” WTH?
The only people who have told me they are strategic thinkers tend to be lightweights. It's just ... weird.
But honestly, that's not why we should critique him. We should base it on tangible, job related performance indicators. Like his weight (jokes)
Seriously, though, the issues seem to coalesce around- developing a better tight 5 (not on him)
- tactics at rucks
- defence; passive vs active
- offence, bodies in motion vs one off flat footed
- poor tactical kicking and kick chasing
- selections around a clear gameplan
Did I miss anything?
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@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Who was advising Foster on this presser? “I’m resilient.. I’m strategic” WTH?
The only people who have told me they are strategic thinkers tend to be lightweights. It's just ... weird.
But honestly, that's not why we should critique him. We should base it on tangible, job related performance indicators. Like his weight (jokes)
Seriously, though, the issues seem to coalesce around- developing a better tight 5 (not on him)
- tactics at rucks
- defence; passive vs active
- offence, bodies in motion vs one off flat footed
- poor tactical kicking and kick chasing
- selections around a clear gameplan
Did I miss anything?
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@MajorRage And? There was no need from the kuntishness from yer man.
Everyone should watch it anyway. A YouTuber seems to be putting in more elbow grease in his analysis than the NZ coaches.
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@MajorRage And? There was no need from the kuntishness from yer man.
Everyone should watch it anyway. A YouTuber seems to be putting in more elbow grease in his analysis than the NZ coaches.
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Another aspect of the forward play which was dumb : commitment in the rucks or rather lack of commitment in the rucks. Do you remember the European Cup final between La Rochelle and Leinster (12 men of the starting XV of the Irish team of Saturday)? Leinster could not develop their usual play because the La Rochelle forwards made a nuisance of themselves in the rucks : counter rucking and slowing their opponents possession were systematic. What did we see during the 2nd and 3rd tests between the All Blacks and Ireland ? The All Blacks did not commit more than one or two players in the rucks (when they were in defense) which gave the Irish quick and easy possession, without having to commit their forwards to secure it. This was also the recipe used by the Bulls forwards in their semi final vs Leinster. Both games ended with Irish defeats.
@cgrant yeah it is odd, it's almost like our coaching staff, sans McLeod are re watching the AB games circa 2016-2019 for inspiration, yet there is some excellent innovative and specifically planned play about at both test and the next tier down around to gather Intel and ideas from.
The opening 10 of each test match is superb rugby from the Irish, so simple and effective, we are so unimaginative and slow on the uptake, I reckon we coulda played 3 more tests and they'd have scored inside the 1st 10 in each.
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Despite the limitations of our tight 5, we do have the players to get us the go forward we need to give our backline more space to work with. If we pick ST at hooker, SB at lock, and Akira at 6 and tell them to make metres in close with pick and gos etc then that'll quickly give us the front foot ball we have been craving. If memory serves me correctly it was those 3 that got us back into the game against the French with their strong carries close to the ruck. As long as our scrum and lineout are stable then that gives us an awesome platform to attack from. Even if the opposition know what we are going to do, it's incredibly difficult to defend against without commiting more numbers close in, which opens up space wider out.
Rugby is a simple game when it comes down to it, and I think part of our problem is the coaches are trying to be too clever with their gameplans and the players are not able to implement them under pressure, so we look incredibly disjointed.
I can see some logic in bringing ST off the bench, but that only works if the starting hooker is doing his job. As it stands we just absolutely must start ST as he's head and shoulders above Taylor at the moment.
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@Steve you posted the same video on more than one thread.
Figure out the rest yourself. I’m not explaining anymore.
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@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Who was advising Foster on this presser? “I’m resilient.. I’m strategic” WTH?
The only people who have told me they are strategic thinkers tend to be lightweights. It's just ... weird.
But honestly, that's not why we should critique him. We should base it on tangible, job related performance indicators. Like his weight (jokes)
Seriously, though, the issues seem to coalesce around- developing a better tight 5 (not on him)
- tactics at rucks
- defence; passive vs active
- offence, bodies in motion vs one off flat footed
- poor tactical kicking and kick chasing
- selections around a clear gameplan
Did I miss anything?
@nzzp
Ultra-conservative selections. Despite players being out of form, the losses pile up, and yet we see the same players back in the starting lineup. As well, players being welcome back into the team who weren't even up to scratch when they left.
New players being left up shite creek without a paddle. Since nobody seems to know how to defend or attack with any cohesion, new players look utterly confused and are then being scapegoated afterward. -
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph making stuff up?
Sounds pretty specific to me
Happy if this is true but how does McLeod keep on retaining his position? Easily the worst defence coach in World Rugby.
It’s hard to see Mooar/Macleod retaining their jobs after the Irish series. But who would you bring in knowing that if things don’t go well Foster will be sacked and Razor will roll in his own team?
If rumours are true (I’d note the rumour mill got it wrong about Cane being dropped as Capt) and MacDonald and Ryan are being canvassed as replacements. Doesn’t this foreshadow Foster getting axed anyway?
I think its smart by NZRU as next year post WC two assistants could argue they want to be on the team of a new head coach.
So then - regardless of result - Razor becomes the ‘continuity’ candidate as Fozzie has to bring in all new people.
If we win they chalk it to the assistants.
If we lose, they hang it on Fozzie.
@gt12 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I think its smart by NZRU as next year post WC two assistants could argue they want to be on the team of a new head coach.
So then - regardless of result - Razor becomes the ‘continuity’ candidate as Fozzie has to bring in all new people.
If we win they chalk it to the assistants.
If we lose, they hang it on Fozzie.Motherfuckin wishful thinking - but I'm onboard!!!!
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@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Who was advising Foster on this presser? “I’m resilient.. I’m strategic” WTH?
The only people who have told me they are strategic thinkers tend to be lightweights. It's just ... weird.
But honestly, that's not why we should critique him. We should base it on tangible, job related performance indicators. Like his weight (jokes)
Seriously, though, the issues seem to coalesce around- developing a better tight 5 (not on him)
- tactics at rucks
- defence; passive vs active
- offence, bodies in motion vs one off flat footed
- poor tactical kicking and kick chasing
- selections around a clear gameplan
Did I miss anything?
@nzzp said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
Who was advising Foster on this presser? “I’m resilient.. I’m strategic” WTH?
The only people who have told me they are strategic thinkers tend to be lightweights. It's just ... weird.
Off topic - but, Big Picture Thinkers - Lazy c*nts who can't be bothered applying attention to detail and leave that to someone else.
You may quote me on that!!!
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I reckon the ABs have nothing to lose in SA.
They are pretty much at rock bottom, lost 4 of thier last 5, 5 of thier last 8...
Under normal circumstances 1 win in SA from 2 tests on consecutive weeks would be acceptable...
Losing both is what the bulk of the rugby public is expecting now (some wanting, as they see this as a way to get Fozzie gone)
For me, Fozzies future hinges on the Bledisloe, but the cards have given him the very best shot at retaining with 1 test at EP...but if if falls here, he loses the Cup and also takes on yet another first of being the first AB coach of the professional era to lose at EP...surely that will see him gone for the EOYT?
Maybe Razor should be watching the NPC with a bit keener eye this year!
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I reckon the ABs have nothing to lose in SA.
They are pretty much at rock bottom, lost 4 of thier last 5, 5 of thier last 8...
Under normal circumstances 1 win in SA from 2 tests on consecutive weeks would be acceptable...
Losing both is what the bulk of the rugby public is expecting now (some wanting, as they see this as a way to get Fozzie gone)
For me, Fozzies future hinges on the Bledisloe, but the cards have given him the very best shot at retaining with 1 test at EP...but if if falls here, he loses the Cup and also takes on yet another first of being the first AB coach of the professional era to lose at EP...surely that will see him gone for the EOYT?
Maybe Razor should be watching the NPC with a bit keener eye this year!
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I reckon the ABs have nothing to lose in SA.
Except their coaches...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
I reckon the ABs have nothing to lose in SA.
Except their coaches...
@Chris-B not in SA they won't, unless they send them on a 3 day Lion safari on foot...
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@Chris-B not in SA they won't, unless they send them on a 3 day Lion safari on foot...
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B not in SA they won't, unless they send them on a 3 day Lion safari on foot...
If they send Foster that would be over feeding the Lions,That can cause health problems.
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@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph making stuff up?
Sounds pretty specific to me
Happy if this is true but how does McLeod keep on retaining his position? Easily the worst defence coach in World Rugby.
It’s hard to see Mooar/Macleod retaining their jobs after the Irish series. But who would you bring in knowing that if things don’t go well Foster will be sacked and Razor will roll in his own team?
If rumours are true (I’d note the rumour mill got it wrong about Cane being dropped as Capt) and MacDonald and Ryan are being canvassed as replacements. Doesn’t this foreshadow Foster getting axed anyway?
I think its smart by NZRU as next year post WC two assistants could argue they want to be on the team of a new head coach.
So then - regardless of result - Razor becomes the ‘continuity’ candidate as Fozzie has to bring in all new people.
If we win they chalk it to the assistants.
If we lose, they hang it on Fozzie.
@gt12 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@TheMojoman said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@akan004 said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@Tim said in All Blacks squad - The Rugby Championship:
@KiwiMurph making stuff up?
Sounds pretty specific to me
Happy if this is true but how does McLeod keep on retaining his position? Easily the worst defence coach in World Rugby.
It’s hard to see Mooar/Macleod retaining their jobs after the Irish series. But who would you bring in knowing that if things don’t go well Foster will be sacked and Razor will roll in his own team?
If rumours are true (I’d note the rumour mill got it wrong about Cane being dropped as Capt) and MacDonald and Ryan are being canvassed as replacements. Doesn’t this foreshadow Foster getting axed anyway?
I think its smart by NZRU as next year post WC two assistants could argue they want to be on the team of a new head coach.
So then - regardless of result - Razor becomes the ‘continuity’ candidate as Fozzie has to bring in all new people.
If we win they chalk it to the assistants.
If we lose, they hang it on Fozzie.
From what I’ve seen planning of that complexity is well beyond anything these clowns are capable of. It’s much more likely that they’re just too cowardly to make the big calls.
