The Worst All Blacks results ...
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I'm throwing in 1936.
My Great Uncle Jack Manchester.
The least successful AB captain on a NH tour.
2 wins from 4.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
I'm throwing in 1936.
My Great Uncle Jack Manchester.
The least successful AB captain on a NH tour.
2 wins from 4.
Lost to Swansea in 1935, with Hayden Tanner having to get a note from his mother to miss school
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@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
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@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
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@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
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@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
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1949 - All Blacks managed to lose twice in one day.
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@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
Bit of a mixture from memory. Hastings, Evans, Gibbs, Guscott, Underwood, Andrew etc were all greats but some of the Scottish tight forwards who somehow got test caps were very journeymanish
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@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
Bit of a mixture from memory. Hastings, Evans, Gibbs, Guscott, Underwood, Andrew etc were all greats but some of the Scottish tight forwards who somehow got test caps were very journeymanish
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
Bit of a mixture from memory. Hastings, Evans, Gibbs, Guscott, Underwood, Andrew etc were all greats but some of the Scottish tight forwards who somehow got test caps were very journeymanish
Damn, now I'm going to have to look it up - I thought it was mostly English forwards like Bayfield, Clarke, Leonard, Winterbottom and the young fulla Johnson etc.
Edit: Looks like the coach was drunk or there were injuries for the first test when the three Scots got a start. It was the Englishmen and Popplewell for the rest of the tests.
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Losing to the World XV and being thrashed by Sydney in 1992 was bad. The series against Aust was one of the best to watch, however.
@Bovidae said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Losing to the World XV and being thrashed by Sydney in 1992 was bad. The series against Aust was one of the best to watch, however.
Was that the game played at Penrith and the ABs got tonked us for forty odd? Matt Cooper played from memory.
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@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
Bit of a mixture from memory. Hastings, Evans, Gibbs, Guscott, Underwood, Andrew etc were all greats but some of the Scottish tight forwards who somehow got test caps were very journeymanish
Damn, now I'm going to have to look it up - I thought it was mostly English forwards like Bayfield, Clarke, Leonard, Winterbottom and the young fulla Johnson etc.
Edit: Looks like the coach was drunk or there were injuries for the first test when the three Scots got a start. It was the Englishmen and Popplewell for the rest of the tests.
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
Bit of a mixture from memory. Hastings, Evans, Gibbs, Guscott, Underwood, Andrew etc were all greats but some of the Scottish tight forwards who somehow got test caps were very journeymanish
Damn, now I'm going to have to look it up - I thought it was mostly English forwards like Bayfield, Clarke, Leonard, Winterbottom and the young fulla Johnson etc.
Edit: Looks like the coach was drunk or there were injuries for the first test when the three Scots got a start. It was the Englishmen and Popplewell for the rest of the tests.
Yeah I couldn’t find it online at first but three Scots in the tight five was beyond ridiculous. Plodders the lot of them.
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@Bovidae said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Losing to the World XV and being thrashed by Sydney in 1992 was bad. The series against Aust was one of the best to watch, however.
Was that the game played at Penrith and the ABs got tonked us for forty odd? Matt Cooper played from memory.
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Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
Hard to think of a more shit time than end of last year to now though.
In 1998 I at least felt we were a fair way off the pace but building something. Not now. Not even close.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
Hard to think of a more shit time than end of last year to now though.
In 1998 I at least felt we were a fair way off the pace but building something. Not now. Not even close.
Not RWC 2003 time when we were upended by an H G Well villain?
https://www.facebook.com/rugbyworldcup/videos/mortlocks-try-in-2003/564663523956518/ -
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
Bit of a mixture from memory. Hastings, Evans, Gibbs, Guscott, Underwood, Andrew etc were all greats but some of the Scottish tight forwards who somehow got test caps were very journeymanish
Damn, now I'm going to have to look it up - I thought it was mostly English forwards like Bayfield, Clarke, Leonard, Winterbottom and the young fulla Johnson etc.
Edit: Looks like the coach was drunk or there were injuries for the first test when the three Scots got a start. It was the Englishmen and Popplewell for the rest of the tests.
Yeah I couldn’t find it online at first but three Scots in the tight five was beyond ridiculous. Plodders the lot of them.
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@Nepia said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
@mikedogz said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Laurie Mains era except for World Cup. 1998, Early 2000's.
I don't think the Mains era was that bad, but it was all over the show. Series win over a strong Lions team, series win over a strong-ish Boks team, a very close series loss to an awesome Oz team, a series loss to the try from the end of the world. In most of those matched good rugby was played by both sides.
@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
03 semi is worst for me.
@booboo said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Was it 1973 when we lost to ourselves, NZ Universities and England ... ?
Yeah I think so, thank god I wasn't around for the early 70s.
Plus he gave debuts to Jonah, Goldie, Osbourne, Merhts, Kronfeld and others I may have missed.
He also almost won the WC and the team was the most exciting one on display by far.
Off topic slightly but not sure I’d call the Lions team too strong, the midweek team were a bunch of disorganised pass heads apparently.
I thought their top team was decent but due to them being locked in the midweek team decided to go on holiday.
Bit of a mixture from memory. Hastings, Evans, Gibbs, Guscott, Underwood, Andrew etc were all greats but some of the Scottish tight forwards who somehow got test caps were very journeymanish
Damn, now I'm going to have to look it up - I thought it was mostly English forwards like Bayfield, Clarke, Leonard, Winterbottom and the young fulla Johnson etc.
Edit: Looks like the coach was drunk or there were injuries for the first test when the three Scots got a start. It was the Englishmen and Popplewell for the rest of the tests.
Yeah I couldn’t find it online at first but three Scots in the tight five was beyond ridiculous. Plodders the lot of them.
By international standards or those exemplary Scottish standards?
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@MajorRage said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Worst one-off is quarter final RWC 2007. Easily. That was a killer.
Hard to think of a more shit time than end of last year to now though.
In 1998 I at least felt we were a fair way off the pace but building something. Not now. Not even close.
Not RWC 2003 time when we were upended by an H G Well villain?
https://www.facebook.com/rugbyworldcup/videos/mortlocks-try-in-2003/564663523956518/@nostrildamus no way. 2007 was a thousand times worst than 03.
2007 still remains the biggest head scratcher of a match for me. After the result I didn’t want to get out of bed the whole day.
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The 04 loss to the Boks when they put 40 on us was pretty gut wrenching low moment for me.
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The 04 loss to the Boks when they put 40 on us was pretty gut wrenching low moment for me.
@ACT-Crusader said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
The 04 loss to the Boks when they put 40 on us was pretty gut wrenching low moment for me.
Boks played very well that day. I'd say 2007 was worse. I was there that day. Atmosphere was surreal...thousands of pro-French Irish supporters making helluva noise, the ABs starting ok, then just seizing like rabbits in the headlights.
1999 was a low day, but I think that's more due to the fact the 1st half had gone ok with Lomu in his usual destructive mood. Then the French took magic pills at half-time and every pass and bounce of the ball went their way.
But 2007 is the one that stands out for me, if only because I'd seen the ABs put near 50 on the French in Lyon less than 12 months before. Goes to show how much can change in 12 months
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I don’t think this era can be topped.
First loss to Argentina. Ever.
Consecutive losses to Ireland at home.
Three losses of 10 or more points in a row.
Wales and Scotland licking their lips at the end of the year.
98 wasn’t quite as bad when you consider South Africa had a brilliant team on a 17 match unbeaten streak and Australia won the WC the following year.
@MN5 said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
I don’t think this era can be topped.
Oh yes it can....
1970-71 - Three Test losses on the trot
1971 - First series loss to the Lions
1972 - First loss to an England club side (twice)
1972 - First draw with an Irish club side
1973 - First time we didn't win against Ireland (10-10 draw)
1973 - Lost to France for the first time in 20 years
1973 - Lost to the NZ Juniors
1973 - Lost to a NZ Invitation Side
1973 - First loss to England at home (Eden Park)Still, on the bright side, things did pick up after about 5 years and 3-4 new coaches
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@ACT-Crusader said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
The 04 loss to the Boks when they put 40 on us was pretty gut wrenching low moment for me.
Boks played very well that day. I'd say 2007 was worse. I was there that day. Atmosphere was surreal...thousands of pro-French Irish supporters making helluva noise, the ABs starting ok, then just seizing like rabbits in the headlights.
1999 was a low day, but I think that's more due to the fact the 1st half had gone ok with Lomu in his usual destructive mood. Then the French took magic pills at half-time and every pass and bounce of the ball went their way.
But 2007 is the one that stands out for me, if only because I'd seen the ABs put near 50 on the French in Lyon less than 12 months before. Goes to show how much can change in 12 months
@stodders said in The Worst All Blacks results ...:
Boks played very well that day. I'd say 2007 was worse. I was there that day. Atmosphere was surreal...thousands of pro-French Irish supporters making helluva noise, the ABs starting ok, then just seizing like rabbits in the headlights.
So was I. Was meant to meet up with @PdP for a beer pre or post- game but we didn't quite manage it. Probably a good thing.
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The 04 loss to the Boks when they put 40 on us was pretty gut wrenching low moment for me.
@ACT-Crusader Yeah agree with 04 where we were sort of rebuilding. Marius Joubert scored 3 from memory, and yeah, 07 just came outta nowhere against an out of sorts French side.
