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  • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

    @MN5 he had a really gangly running style and just enough pace - but I remember being stoked that Goodhue had a bit of toe for a bigger 13. I'd be a virtual choc fish that Jack would edge him in a footrace. Then again that was when he burst on the scene and neither of them have afterburners like Ennor or Reiko at 13.

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    @Paekakboyz said in All Black backline:

    @MN5 he had a really gangly running style and just enough pace - but I remember being stoked that Goodhue had a bit of toe for a bigger 13. I'd be a virtual choc fish that Jack would edge him in a footrace. Then again that was when he burst on the scene and neither of them have afterburners like Ennor or Reiko at 13.

    If Ennor didn't have Brad Shields disease he could make a good 13.

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    • CrucialC Crucial

      @Paekakboyz said in All Black backline:

      @MN5 he had a really gangly running style and just enough pace - but I remember being stoked that Goodhue had a bit of toe for a bigger 13. I'd be a virtual choc fish that Jack would edge him in a footrace. Then again that was when he burst on the scene and neither of them have afterburners like Ennor or Reiko at 13.

      If Ennor didn't have Brad Shields disease he could make a good 13.

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      @Crucial 100%. I have to admit any 13 prospect with genuine pace gets me going, but so far they've been lacking in other areas. While he's a 12 I'm still waiting for RTS to get a shot in a game of significance as well.

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      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

        @Crucial said in All Black backline:

        All of the backline issues stem from the decisions of the 10. Our biggest problem is that we keep selecting 10s that are extremely well skilled players that seemingly have zero tactical awareness.
        For all the talk of how good Mounga was in SA, last night he may as well have renamed himself Beauden.
        No use looking for answers in the midfield if they are being expected to do things that aren’t on. That only leads to them trying things they shouldn’t or aren’t equipped to do.
        Both RM and BB are front foot geniuses but terrible on static ball or breaking down set defences. We get blinded by their skills when they get to use them. They want to attack from everywhere rather than earn the right.
        Even DMac for all his crazy will use his boot to steer the team or pick out straight runners.
        I’d like to see Perofeta given a chance to run the show. I have no idea if he is the answer but RM and BB aren’t.

        Perofeta maybe, but if he gets a run it will be on the back of bugger all play at 10 this season. He even played 15 for the Naki last week when it would have been an ideal time to give him some time at 10.

        So yeah, given he played well for the Blues at 15 Foster will probably play him at 10.

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        @Crazy-Horse said in All Black backline:

        Perofeta maybe, but if he gets a run it will be on the back of bugger all play at 10 this season. He even played 15 for the Naki last week when it would have been an ideal time to give him some time at 10.

        So yeah, given he played well for the Blues at 15 Foster will probably play him at 10.

        Just slightly more than bugger all. Four starts and he finished a lot of games at ten.

        He keeps getting played at 15 because that's his better position. From fullback he manages to break a lot of tackles when it looks like the defence already has him

        He's a bit like McKenzie. Clearly a better fullback and a useful squad option as a 3rd/4th ten

        The two guys in front of him are better.

        They both might benefit from a genuine second play maker though. Havili has not really been used like that, Jordie isn't offering it from fullback. Perofeta at 15 is something worth looking at

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          My Power rankings

          1. Smith / Christie / Weber / Fakatava / TJ
          2. Beauden / McKenzie / Mounga / Perofeta
          3. Ioane / Reece / RTS / Clarke / Faingaanuku
          4. ALB / Jordie / Tupaea / Goodhue / Havili
          5. ALB / Rieko / Tupaea / RTS / Faingaanuku
          6. Jordan / Reece / RTS / Reiko / Jordie
          7. Jordan / Jordie / McKenzie / Beauden

          What id love to see

          1. Smith
          2. Beauden
          3. Ioane
          4. Jordie
          5. ALB
          6. Reece
          7. Jordan

          While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

          1. Christie / Weber
          2. McKenzie
          3. RTS
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            Alternatively, since I love watching the world crash and burn, I’d love to see

            1. TJ
            2. McKenzie
            3. Bridge
            4. Havili
            5. Ennor
            6. Jordie
            7. Beauden
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              My Power rankings

              1. Smith / Christie / Weber / Fakatava / TJ
              2. Beauden / McKenzie / Mounga / Perofeta
              3. Ioane / Reece / RTS / Clarke / Faingaanuku
              4. ALB / Jordie / Tupaea / Goodhue / Havili
              5. ALB / Rieko / Tupaea / RTS / Faingaanuku
              6. Jordan / Reece / RTS / Reiko / Jordie
              7. Jordan / Jordie / McKenzie / Beauden

              What id love to see

              1. Smith
              2. Beauden
              3. Ioane
              4. Jordie
              5. ALB
              6. Reece
              7. Jordan

              While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

              1. Christie / Weber
              2. McKenzie
              3. RTS
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              @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

              While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

              RTS. A guy newly back learning the code in at a position he doesn't play which is widely recognised as one of the more difficult positions to play?

              Yeah right.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                RTS. A guy newly back learning the code in at a position he doesn't play which is widely recognised as one of the more difficult positions to play?

                Yeah right.

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                @Crucial said in All Black backline:

                @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                RTS. A guy newly back learning the code in at a position he doesn't play which is widely recognised as one of the more difficult positions to play?

                Yeah right.

                If he gets a start it will be with his SR centre partner. Maybe outside his SR ten too

                Of the people in the squad I wouldn't mind seeing QT/RI again with RTS on the bench. The other options all straighten more than DH

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                • CrucialC Crucial

                  @Paekakboyz said in All Black backline:

                  @MN5 he had a really gangly running style and just enough pace - but I remember being stoked that Goodhue had a bit of toe for a bigger 13. I'd be a virtual choc fish that Jack would edge him in a footrace. Then again that was when he burst on the scene and neither of them have afterburners like Ennor or Reiko at 13.

                  If Ennor didn't have Brad Shields disease he could make a good 13.

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                  @Crucial said in All Black backline:

                  @Paekakboyz said in All Black backline:

                  @MN5 he had a really gangly running style and just enough pace - but I remember being stoked that Goodhue had a bit of toe for a bigger 13. I'd be a virtual choc fish that Jack would edge him in a footrace. Then again that was when he burst on the scene and neither of them have afterburners like Ennor or Reiko at 13.

                  If Ennor didn't have Brad Shields disease he could make a good 13.

                  Looks like he has a touch of Ronan O’Gara/Merhts in him too.

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                    Lam would be such a better pick than Ennor.

                    Though it matters little when half the squad never plays anyway.

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                    • StagS Stag

                      9.Smith
                      10. Richie
                      11. Ioane
                      12. Anton
                      13. Goodhue
                      14. Reece
                      15. Jordan

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                      @Stag said in All Black backline:

                      1. Anton

                      The one yet to come back from shoulder surgery?

                      1. Goodhue

                      The same Goodhue that hasn't played Test rugby in two years and is getting knee surgery?

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                        While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                        RTS. A guy newly back learning the code in at a position he doesn't play which is widely recognised as one of the more difficult positions to play?

                        Yeah right.

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                        @Crucial I don’t think RTS is a 12 and I don’t think the all blacks think that either. If you watched his debut he went on at 13.

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                          While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                          RTS. A guy newly back learning the code in at a position he doesn't play which is widely recognised as one of the more difficult positions to play?

                          Yeah right.

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                          @Crucial they only play RTS at 12 because that’s the only gap left at the Blues

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                            @Crucial I don’t think RTS is a 12 and I don’t think the all blacks think that either. If you watched his debut he went on at 13.

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                            @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                            @Crucial I don’t think RTS is a 12 and I don’t think the all blacks think that either. If you watched his debut he went on at 13.

                            Well since that appearance the backs coach and 2 of the 3 selectors are gone.

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                              @Crucial they only play RTS at 12 because that’s the only gap left at the Blues

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                              @Yeahtheboys he couldn't displace Reiko at the blues so he's unlikely to do that for the ABs. He's def a 12 imo. Great footwork in traffic and a good defender. He didnt play centre in the NRL, and if he had schoolboy exp at 13 that's a long time ago.

                              If they see him as a 13 then something has to happen at SR and domestic level.

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                              • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                @Yeahtheboys he couldn't displace Reiko at the blues so he's unlikely to do that for the ABs. He's def a 12 imo. Great footwork in traffic and a good defender. He didnt play centre in the NRL, and if he had schoolboy exp at 13 that's a long time ago.

                                If they see him as a 13 then something has to happen at SR and domestic level.

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                                @Paekakboyz they already had

                                1. Christie
                                2. Beauden
                                3. Clarke
                                4. tumbleweed
                                5. Rieko
                                6. Talea
                                7. Perofeta / Sullivan

                                So they started the “RTS is a 12” rumour.

                                RTS is an amazing athlete and would definitely be a class 12 but I think his best position is further out

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                                  @Stag said in All Black backline:

                                  1. Anton

                                  The one yet to come back from shoulder surgery?

                                  1. Goodhue

                                  The same Goodhue that hasn't played Test rugby in two years and is getting knee surgery?

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                                  @antipodean said in All Black backline:

                                  @Stag said in All Black backline:

                                  1. Anton

                                  The one yet to come back from shoulder surgery?

                                  1. Goodhue

                                  The same Goodhue that hasn't played Test rugby in two years and is getting knee surgery?

                                  These two get more ridiculous fern fluffing than Charlie Ngatai got

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                                    My Power rankings

                                    1. Smith / Christie / Weber / Fakatava / TJ
                                    2. Beauden / McKenzie / Mounga / Perofeta
                                    3. Ioane / Reece / RTS / Clarke / Faingaanuku
                                    4. ALB / Jordie / Tupaea / Goodhue / Havili
                                    5. ALB / Rieko / Tupaea / RTS / Faingaanuku
                                    6. Jordan / Reece / RTS / Reiko / Jordie
                                    7. Jordan / Jordie / McKenzie / Beauden

                                    What id love to see

                                    1. Smith
                                    2. Beauden
                                    3. Ioane
                                    4. Jordie
                                    5. ALB
                                    6. Reece
                                    7. Jordan

                                    While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                                    1. Christie / Weber
                                    2. McKenzie
                                    3. RTS
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                                    @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                                    My Power rankings

                                    1. Smith / Christie / Weber / Fakatava / TJ
                                    2. Beauden / McKenzie / Mounga / Perofeta
                                    3. Ioane / Reece / RTS / Clarke / Faingaanuku
                                    4. ALB / Jordie / Tupaea / Goodhue / Havili
                                    5. ALB / Rieko / Tupaea / RTS / Faingaanuku
                                    6. Jordan / Reece / RTS / Reiko / Jordie
                                    7. Jordan / Jordie / McKenzie / Beauden

                                    What id love to see

                                    1. Smith
                                    2. Beauden
                                    3. Ioane
                                    4. Jordie
                                    5. ALB
                                    6. Reece
                                    7. Jordan

                                    While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                                    1. Christie / Weber
                                    2. McKenzie
                                    3. RTS

                                    Fakatava 4th in your power rankings and no TUJ to be seen😔

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                                    • GrooterG Grooter

                                      @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                                      My Power rankings

                                      1. Smith / Christie / Weber / Fakatava / TJ
                                      2. Beauden / McKenzie / Mounga / Perofeta
                                      3. Ioane / Reece / RTS / Clarke / Faingaanuku
                                      4. ALB / Jordie / Tupaea / Goodhue / Havili
                                      5. ALB / Rieko / Tupaea / RTS / Faingaanuku
                                      6. Jordan / Reece / RTS / Reiko / Jordie
                                      7. Jordan / Jordie / McKenzie / Beauden

                                      What id love to see

                                      1. Smith
                                      2. Beauden
                                      3. Ioane
                                      4. Jordie
                                      5. ALB
                                      6. Reece
                                      7. Jordan

                                      While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                                      1. Christie / Weber
                                      2. McKenzie
                                      3. RTS

                                      Fakatava 4th in your power rankings and no TUJ to be seen😔

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                                      @FakatavaAllBlack fuck good point

                                      Smith / Christie / Weber / TJ / Fakatava

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                                        My Power rankings

                                        1. Smith / Christie / Weber / Fakatava / TJ
                                        2. Beauden / McKenzie / Mounga / Perofeta
                                        3. Ioane / Reece / RTS / Clarke / Faingaanuku
                                        4. ALB / Jordie / Tupaea / Goodhue / Havili
                                        5. ALB / Rieko / Tupaea / RTS / Faingaanuku
                                        6. Jordan / Reece / RTS / Reiko / Jordie
                                        7. Jordan / Jordie / McKenzie / Beauden

                                        What id love to see

                                        1. Smith
                                        2. Beauden
                                        3. Ioane
                                        4. Jordie
                                        5. ALB
                                        6. Reece
                                        7. Jordan

                                        While ALB injured, rotate RTS and Tupaea at 13

                                        1. Christie / Weber
                                        2. McKenzie
                                        3. RTS
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                                        @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                                        My Power rankings

                                        Are you going to do the forwards as well? I'm interested in openside flanker!

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                                          @Crucial I don’t think RTS is a 12 and I don’t think the all blacks think that either. If you watched his debut he went on at 13.

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                                          @Yeahtheboys said in All Black backline:

                                          @Crucial I don’t think RTS is a 12 and I don’t think the all blacks think that either. If you watched his debut he went on at 13.

                                          He'd be a very small 13 at international level.

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