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Japan v All Blacks

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #615

    Lomax and Tu'ungufasi looked good when they came on. We have three good props now (de Groot).

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    • TimT Away
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      Tim
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      #616

      What's the best team available for the next game?

      1 de Groot
      2 Taukei'aho
      3 Lomax
      4 Barrett
      5 Whitelock
      6 Ioane
      7 Papalii
      8 Savea
      9 Smith
      10 Mo'unga
      11 Clarke
      12 Barrett
      13 Ioane
      14 Jordan
      15 Barrett

      16 Coles
      17 Tu'ungufasi
      18 Laulala
      19 Tuipulotu
      20 Sotutu
      21 Christie
      22 ALB
      23 Perofeta

      It would be great to have Tu'ungufasi as the bench tight head (Laulala is set piece only), but loose head reserves are chop too. Newall has been poor so far. Too young.

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      • TimT Tim

        Lomax and Tu'ungufasi looked good when they came on. We have three good props now (de Groot).

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        @Tim said in Japan v All Blacks:

        Lomax and Tu'ungufasi looked good when they came on. We have three good props now (de Groot).

        Would be good if we could say the same about 9's. I think we'd be stuffed if Nugget gets injured. Christie is good off the bench but looked slow today. Fakatava's injury could really hurt us.

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          taniwharugby
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          #618

          Scanning this thread I'm glad I didn't watch...

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            Kiwiwomble
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            Biggest take away was how much I enjoy watching Japan play, they just seem to love playing

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            • TimT Away
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              Tim
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              #620

              Just a reminder that we conceded 31 points against Japan. I assume that's another record.

              Defence wins big games, and MacLeod still has a job ... Madness.

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                chimoaus
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                #621

                Fuck Marc Ellis must have had some skills to score 6 tries vs Japan.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Tim said in Japan v All Blacks:

                  Lomax and Tu'ungufasi looked good when they came on. We have three good props now (de Groot).

                  Would be good if we could say the same about 9's. I think we'd be stuffed if Nugget gets injured. Christie is good off the bench but looked slow today. Fakatava's injury could really hurt us.

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                  #622

                  @Victor-Meldrew The way things are going, I can see TJP back in the All Black squad as backup 9. Is Willi Heinz going to be available for the RWC? I think he might be a better bet than Christie too.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                    @Tim said in Japan v All Blacks:

                    Lomax and Tu'ungufasi looked good when they came on. We have three good props now (de Groot).

                    Would be good if we could say the same about 9's. I think we'd be stuffed if Nugget gets injured. Christie is good off the bench but looked slow today. Fakatava's injury could really hurt us.

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                    Tim
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                    #623

                    @Victor-Meldrew Well Hodgman was the standout loose head in Super Rugby, was very good in 2020 for the ABs, but seems to have been banished from any rep teams since then. Something is rotten ...

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                    • TimT Away
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                      Tim
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                      #624

                      Frizzell's defence is always poor, but at least this year he has been good at link play and cleaning attacking rucks. Awful at both today. Really regressed to form.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        What's the best team available for the next game?

                        1 de Groot
                        2 Taukei'aho
                        3 Lomax
                        4 Barrett
                        5 Whitelock
                        6 Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Savea
                        9 Smith
                        10 Mo'unga
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Barrett
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Jordan
                        15 Barrett

                        16 Coles
                        17 Tu'ungufasi
                        18 Laulala
                        19 Tuipulotu
                        20 Sotutu
                        21 Christie
                        22 ALB
                        23 Perofeta

                        It would be great to have Tu'ungufasi as the bench tight head (Laulala is set piece only), but loose head reserves are chop too. Newall has been poor so far. Too young.

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                        JC
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #625

                        @Tim said in Japan v All Blacks:

                        What's the best team available for the next game?

                        1 de Groot
                        2 Taukei'aho
                        3 Lomax
                        4 Barrett
                        5 Whitelock
                        6 Ioane
                        7 Papalii
                        8 Savea
                        9 Smith
                        10 Mo'unga
                        11 Clarke
                        12 Barrett
                        13 Ioane
                        14 Jordan
                        15 Barrett

                        16 Coles
                        17 Tu'ungufasi
                        18 Laulala
                        19 Tuipulotu
                        20 Sotutu
                        21 Christie
                        22 ALB
                        23 Perofeta

                        It would be great to have Tu'ungufasi as the bench tight head (Laulala is set piece only), but loose head reserves are chop too. Newall has been poor so far. Too young.

                        I’d still have RIoane on the left and ALB at centre. BBarrett to start instead of Richie M, much as that worries me, because Richie can’t play well if he hasn’t got an armchair ride from his forwards. Jordan to FB. Richie on the bench with Perofeta.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Just a reminder that we conceded 31 points against Japan. I assume that's another record.

                          Defence wins big games, and MacLeod still has a job ... Madness.

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                          #626

                          @Tim said in Japan v All Blacks:

                          Just a reminder that we conceded 31 points against Japan. I assume that's another record.

                          Defence wins big games, and MacLeod still has a job ... Madness.

                          Was 69-31 last time we played them, so not a record there. So Mcleod hasn't gotten any better in the past 4 years then.

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                          • A Anonymous

                            @Tim said in Japan v All Blacks:

                            Just a reminder that we conceded 31 points against Japan. I assume that's another record.

                            Defence wins big games, and MacLeod still has a job ... Madness.

                            Was 69-31 last time we played them, so not a record there. So Mcleod hasn't gotten any better in the past 4 years then.

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                            Tim
                            wrote on last edited by Tim
                            #627

                            @Anonymous Happy for him not to set a new record this time. :folded_hands:

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                              His Bobness
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                              #628

                              Just watched the Black Ferns vs Wales. Infinitely more entertaining with far greater skills on display.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                I'm nowhere near as despondent as others after that, and still very much looking forward to the EOYT. Japan are pretty decent at home these days, and we had a lot of disruption in the lead up so had a pretty makeshift team really. We also clearly don't have the depth of players that we used to, so I was never expecting us to stuff them by 50.

                                The team that ran out tonight is a far cry from the team that smacked the Wallabies at Eden Park. If we get our first choice 15 on the field then we're a formidable team. Obviously a couple of injuries to key players would put us in a bit of trouble, but that's true of any of the top sides at the moment.

                                I think we just need to give our top 15 plenty of gametime going into the RWC and hope we don't get any major injuries, which is basically what every other side is doing as well.

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                                Victor Meldrew
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                                @No-Quarter

                                Like you, I'm not despondent overall and expected a scrappy first half, but we didn't get much better in the 2nd half and that's a bit of worry for me.

                                Perhaps it's just too many inexperienced players with minimum game time so hope the likes of RTS & Vaa'i get some gain from the match

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                                  MiketheSnow
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                                  #630

                                  Well that was entertaining as fuck

                                  Japan carved open NZ like a Thanksgiving turkey. Too many easy yards.

                                  Stupid by BBBR and deservedly redded.

                                  Was hoping you'd romp this one and be underdone for us.

                                  Alas, the obvious changes will see you coast past us next week

                                  Unfortunately

                                  In fairness to the ref, his improvement from his previous performance was meteoric

                                  He coud turn out to be a very handy ref

                                  I'd already have him before 2/3 of the French reffing team

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                                  • His BobnessH His Bobness

                                    Just watched the Black Ferns vs Wales. Infinitely more entertaining with far greater skills on display.

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                                    JC
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                                    #631

                                    @His-Bobness said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                    Just watched the Black Ferns vs Wales. Infinitely more entertaining with far greater skills on display.

                                    It even had some biff!

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      Well that was entertaining as fuck

                                      Japan carved open NZ like a Thanksgiving turkey. Too many easy yards.

                                      Stupid by BBBR and deservedly redded.

                                      Was hoping you'd romp this one and be underdone for us.

                                      Alas, the obvious changes will see you coast past us next week

                                      Unfortunately

                                      In fairness to the ref, his improvement from his previous performance was meteoric

                                      He coud turn out to be a very handy ref

                                      I'd already have him before 2/3 of the French reffing team

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                                      Tim
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #632

                                      @MiketheSnow said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      In fairness to the ref, his improvement from his previous performance was meteoric

                                      He was terrible. Let so many players go who flopped over rucks. Missed knock-ons in real time. Missed Japan collapsing at scrums.

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                                      • TimT Tim

                                        @MiketheSnow said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        In fairness to the ref, his improvement from his previous performance was meteoric

                                        He was terrible. Let so many players go who flopped over rucks. Missed knock-ons in real time. Missed Japan collapsing at scrums.

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                                        MiketheSnow
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                                        #633

                                        @Tim said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @MiketheSnow said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        In fairness to the ref, his improvement from his previous performance was meteoric

                                        He was terrible. Let so many players go who flopped over rucks. Missed knock-ons in real time. Missed Japan collapsing at scrums.

                                        No doubt, but better.

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                                          Nevorian
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                                          Three takeaways from this match is 1 TJ is a knob 2 Marshall is a bigger knob and 3 Jonker is TJ + Marshall in knobess

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