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Japan v All Blacks

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  • S Steve

    Coles and Cane gone to injury.

    This will be another one of those times where the medical room makes the selections Foster should have made in the first place.

    Papalii and Aumua to be "discovered" over the coming weeks.

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    @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

    Coles and Cane gone to injury.

    This will be another one of those times where the medical room makes the selections Foster should have made in the first place.

    Papalii and Aumua to be "discovered" over the coming weeks.

    This is essentially good news. We need Papalii, Aumua and a few others to get used to playing big tests in the likes of Twickenham and Cardiff.

    Flogging Australia every year is no barometer of where a team is at anymore.

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      With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

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      • S Steve

        With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

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        @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

        With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

        Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

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        • canefanC canefan

          @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

          With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

          Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

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          @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

          @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

          With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

          Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

          Reece had a couple of very ordinary moments last night but I love what he brings. And in the absence of a running 9 or 10 he's the only real threat we have around the ruck

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

            With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

            Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

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            @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

            @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

            With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

            Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

            Pretty much as good a combo as we can field.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

              @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

              With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

              Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

              Reece had a couple of very ordinary moments last night but I love what he brings. And in the absence of a running 9 or 10 he's the only real threat we have around the ruck

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              @mariner4life said in Japan v All Blacks:

              @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

              @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

              With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

              Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

              Reece had a couple of very ordinary moments last night but I love what he brings. And in the absence of a running 9 or 10 he's the only real threat we have around the ruck

              He basically does what we want from Aaron Smith from time to time.

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                I forgot, who was the victim of the tip tackle in last night's match? And who was the Japanese player, who arguably deserved a red card? It will be interesting to see if he gets cited; I think he should be.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  I forgot, who was the victim of the tip tackle in last night's match? And who was the Japanese player, who arguably deserved a red card? It will be interesting to see if he gets cited; I think he should be.

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                  @Stargazer said in Japan v All Blacks:

                  I forgot, who was the victim of the tip tackle in last night's match, that was only deemed worthy of a yellow by the ref? And who was the Japanese player, who deserved that red card? It will be interesting to see if he gets cited; I think he should be.

                  There was also a shoulder to head clean out on one of our props about 5 mins before BBBRs. Wasn't looked at .

                  Being a ref is a thankless task

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    I forgot, who was the victim of the tip tackle in last night's match? And who was the Japanese player, who arguably deserved a red card? It will be interesting to see if he gets cited; I think he should be.

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                    @Stargazer it was Papalii I think (was a tip cleanout if that was the one you were thinking of).

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Stargazer it was Papalii I think (was a tip cleanout if that was the one you were thinking of).

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                      @KiwiMurph yeah, it was Papalii. He looked pretty angry afterwards.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @KiwiMurph yeah, it was Papalii. He looked pretty angry afterwards.

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                        @Tim I can't find a gif or vid of it anywhere, but at the time I was flabbergasted that it wasn't properly penalised. Not even a yellow.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Stargazer said in Japan v All Blacks:

                          I forgot, who was the victim of the tip tackle in last night's match, that was only deemed worthy of a yellow by the ref? And who was the Japanese player, who deserved that red card? It will be interesting to see if he gets cited; I think he should be.

                          There was also a shoulder to head clean out on one of our props about 5 mins before BBBRs. Wasn't looked at .

                          Being a ref is a thankless task

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                          @mariner4life said in Japan v All Blacks:

                          @Stargazer said in Japan v All Blacks:

                          I forgot, who was the victim of the tip tackle in last night's match, that was only deemed worthy of a yellow by the ref? And who was the Japanese player, who deserved that red card? It will be interesting to see if he gets cited; I think he should be.

                          There was also a shoulder to head clean out on one of our props about 5 mins before BBBRs. Wasn't looked at .

                          Being a ref is a thankless task

                          Have you got a time for that, or Dalts tip, anyone?

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

                            With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

                            Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

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                            @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

                            @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

                            With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

                            Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

                            Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!

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                            • Chris B.C Chris B.

                              @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

                              @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

                              With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

                              Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

                              Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!

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                              @Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:

                              @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

                              @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

                              With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

                              Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

                              Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!

                              Especially if our 9 and 10 just distribute. We'll get picked off.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

                                Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

                                Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!

                                Especially if our 9 and 10 just distribute. We'll get picked off.

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                                @mariner4life why would they change tactics now?

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  @Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                  @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                  @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                  With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

                                  Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

                                  Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!

                                  Especially if our 9 and 10 just distribute. We'll get picked off.

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                                  @mariner4life said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                  @Chris-B said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                  @canefan said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                  @Steve said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                  With Will Jordan still out , I fear we will lose Jordie from the 12 shirt, and he is exactly what we need up north on attack and defence.

                                  Play BB at 15 and bring Reece in for WJ

                                  Smith, Mo'unga, Reece, BBarrett - pretty small ball backline!

                                  Especially if our 9 and 10 just distribute. We'll get picked off.

                                  Put a small midfield in there and they will run straight through us

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                    @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                    Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.

                                    He of all people should understand it he has done enough of it himself.
                                    As BB was doing it all season JB from FB as well it looks like a team tactic for some bizarre reason.

                                    You should only kick the ball in general play for a set purpose. That means that if you are unlikely to achieve that purpose, don't kick it! If the opposition are well positioned at the back you won't find space. If the opposition have more likelihood of collecting a high ball than you do, don't kick it!

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                                    @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                    @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                    @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                    Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.

                                    He of all people should understand it he has done enough of it himself.
                                    As BB was doing it all season JB from FB as well it looks like a team tactic for some bizarre reason.

                                    You should only kick the ball in general play for a set purpose. That means that if you are unlikely to achieve that purpose, don't kick it! If the opposition are well positioned at the back you won't find space. If the opposition have more likelihood of collecting a high ball than you do, don't kick it!

                                    No argument with that,But we are seeing it from everyone in this Ab set up who tactically kick.
                                    Mounga,Jordie Barrett,Beauden Barrett its either a team tactic kicking straight to a player and not into space as they are all doing it.
                                    Or it's a disease associated with this squad.

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                                    • ChrisC Chris

                                      @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.

                                      He of all people should understand it he has done enough of it himself.
                                      As BB was doing it all season JB from FB as well it looks like a team tactic for some bizarre reason.

                                      You should only kick the ball in general play for a set purpose. That means that if you are unlikely to achieve that purpose, don't kick it! If the opposition are well positioned at the back you won't find space. If the opposition have more likelihood of collecting a high ball than you do, don't kick it!

                                      No argument with that,But we are seeing it from everyone in this Ab set up who tactically kick.
                                      Mounga,Jordie Barrett,Beauden Barrett its either a team tactic kicking straight to a player and not into space as they are all doing it.
                                      Or it's a disease associated with this squad.

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                                      @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                      Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.

                                      He of all people should understand it he has done enough of it himself.
                                      As BB was doing it all season JB from FB as well it looks like a team tactic for some bizarre reason.

                                      You should only kick the ball in general play for a set purpose. That means that if you are unlikely to achieve that purpose, don't kick it! If the opposition are well positioned at the back you won't find space. If the opposition have more likelihood of collecting a high ball than you do, don't kick it!

                                      No argument with that,But we are seeing it from everyone in this Ab set up who tactically kick.
                                      Mounga,Jordie Barrett,Beauden Barrett its either a team tactic kicking straight to a player and not into space as they are all doing it.
                                      Or it's a disease associated with this squad.

                                      I dont think we have a kicking skills coach at the moment do we?

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.

                                        He of all people should understand it he has done enough of it himself.
                                        As BB was doing it all season JB from FB as well it looks like a team tactic for some bizarre reason.

                                        You should only kick the ball in general play for a set purpose. That means that if you are unlikely to achieve that purpose, don't kick it! If the opposition are well positioned at the back you won't find space. If the opposition have more likelihood of collecting a high ball than you do, don't kick it!

                                        No argument with that,But we are seeing it from everyone in this Ab set up who tactically kick.
                                        Mounga,Jordie Barrett,Beauden Barrett its either a team tactic kicking straight to a player and not into space as they are all doing it.
                                        Or it's a disease associated with this squad.

                                        I dont think we have a kicking skills coach at the moment do we?

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                                        @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @Chris said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        @Crucial said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                        Even DMac was shaking his head at the brainless kicking at times.

                                        He of all people should understand it he has done enough of it himself.
                                        As BB was doing it all season JB from FB as well it looks like a team tactic for some bizarre reason.

                                        You should only kick the ball in general play for a set purpose. That means that if you are unlikely to achieve that purpose, don't kick it! If the opposition are well positioned at the back you won't find space. If the opposition have more likelihood of collecting a high ball than you do, don't kick it!

                                        No argument with that,But we are seeing it from everyone in this Ab set up who tactically kick.
                                        Mounga,Jordie Barrett,Beauden Barrett its either a team tactic kicking straight to a player and not into space as they are all doing it.
                                        Or it's a disease associated with this squad.

                                        I dont think we have a kicking skills coach at the moment do we?

                                        well Foster was a First Five and his main strength was kicking when he played I suppose he is it.

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @mariner4life said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                          @Stargazer said in Japan v All Blacks:

                                          I forgot, who was the victim of the tip tackle in last night's match, that was only deemed worthy of a yellow by the ref? And who was the Japanese player, who deserved that red card? It will be interesting to see if he gets cited; I think he should be.

                                          There was also a shoulder to head clean out on one of our props about 5 mins before BBBRs. Wasn't looked at .

                                          Being a ref is a thankless task

                                          Have you got a time for that, or Dalts tip, anyone?

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                                          @Machpants 71:40 for the cleanout past the horizontal. Came down okay.

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