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All Blacks vs Scotland

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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Are you guys scared of Scotland all of a sudden?

    Um, Yes.

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    #186

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

    Are you guys scared of Scotland all of a sudden?

    Um, Yes.

    Geez, Aura really is dead then, isn’t she?

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    • BovidaeB Bovidae

      I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

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      #187

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

      I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

      It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

      Worth sticking with though.

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        Love all the posts complaining about not having the “best” team.
        We’ve had a shit season so far that has meant little opportunities to bring the whole possible squad into things as much as we need and are taking an opportunity against the lowly Scots.
        Are you guys scared of Scotland all of a sudden?

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        #188

        @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

        Love all the posts complaining about not having the “best” team.
        We’ve had a shit season so far that has meant little opportunities to bring the whole possible squad into things as much as we need and are taking an opportunity against the lowly Scots.
        Are you guys scared of Scotland all of a sudden?

        This. This is the kind of sanctimony I wish I could rewind to, before we got done like a dinner by a bunch of teams I wasn't "scared" of.

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        • WingerW Offline
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          Interesting team

          Hope Telea goes well to provide another wing option as I don't rate Reece

          Biggest disappointment for me is Aumua not getting a run at least in the reserves. Coles is injury prone now so he's one injury away from being in the reserves. Unless Ryan has another Crusader lined up.

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

            It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

            Worth sticking with though.

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            #190

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

            It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

            Worth sticking with though.

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

            I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

            It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

            Worth sticking with though.

            Definitely frustrating. To me his biggest flaw is his lack of balance/proprioception, which I'm not sure you can coach into someone. This was the most exceptional thing about Jonah IMO (rather than his obvious size or speed). It's something Ardie has too. The "just can't put them down" factor.

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            • TeWaioT TeWaio

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

              I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

              It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

              Worth sticking with though.

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

              I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

              It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

              Worth sticking with though.

              Definitely frustrating. To me his biggest flaw is his lack of balance/proprioception, which I'm not sure you can coach into someone. This was the most exceptional thing about Jonah IMO (rather than his obvious size or speed). It's something Ardie has too. The "just can't put them down" factor.

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              Kirwan
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              #191

              @TeWaio not sure what is going on with Clarke, the balance issues weren’t a problem at the Blues for the past three years.

              He’ll do something incredible, and then explicably fall over. His pros aren’t matched by any of the other wingers, so I can see why they are persisting with him but Jesus put on some longer sprigs or something.

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                #192

                And this right here is why I fucking hate our team full of 90s Black Caps bitsa players

                We want to rest our 10 so we have to change the 12 and the 15 to do it.

                DH and ALB together in midfield won't be giving the Scots too many sleepless nights.

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                  I am going to go against the grain and say I hate the number of changes.

                  The team played well against Wales and should be given time together. I don't see the point in bring Perenara back, or Havili back.

                  Scotland almost beat Australia a few weeks ago and are not easy beats.

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                  • CrucialC Crucial

                    Love all the posts complaining about not having the “best” team.
                    We’ve had a shit season so far that has meant little opportunities to bring the whole possible squad into things as much as we need and are taking an opportunity against the lowly Scots.
                    Are you guys scared of Scotland all of a sudden?

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                    taniwharugby
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                    #194

                    @Crucial well under Foster, the ABs are like a box of chocolates...

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                    • DamoD Damo

                      I am going to go against the grain and say I hate the number of changes.

                      The team played well against Wales and should be given time together. I don't see the point in bring Perenara back, or Havili back.

                      Scotland almost beat Australia a few weeks ago and are not easy beats.

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                      #195

                      @Damo said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                      I am going to go against the grain and say I hate the number of changes.

                      The team played well against Wales and should be given time together. I don't see the point in bring Perenara back, or Havili back.

                      Scotland almost beat Australia a few weeks ago and are not easy beats.

                      I agree. We don't have the luxury of a well set first team let alone a strong second unit. Things are just starting to gel, would have been better to make a few changes but still allow for combinations to strengthen, then bring on fresh blood from the bench

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                        voodoo
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                        #196

                        Horrible team. Too many changes. Awful starting backs, bench devoid of any punch. I think we are going to see a whole lot of mauling and fuck all back play.

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                          Interesting to hear Beaudy say Telea weighed in at over 100kg.

                          Explains Telea's power in contact.

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                          • TeWaioT TeWaio

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                            I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

                            It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

                            Worth sticking with though.

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                            I think Clarke is very lucky to be playing ahead of Reece in this game as he was very poor against Wales. He needs to have a performance that backs up his talent.

                            It's frustrating. Good under the high ball, pace, reasonable defence, can break tackles but has this knack of tripping over, running away from support (or the support not backing up) and letting a great break die.

                            Worth sticking with though.

                            Definitely frustrating. To me his biggest flaw is his lack of balance/proprioception, which I'm not sure you can coach into someone. This was the most exceptional thing about Jonah IMO (rather than his obvious size or speed). It's something Ardie has too. The "just can't put them down" factor.

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                            @TeWaio said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                            This was the most exceptional thing about Jonah IMO

                            Arguably the most balanced runner I've seen. Never forget Jonah scoring against Scotland in '96 (great game with Cullen scoring at will and the Jocks putting over 30 pts on us) and appearing to tiptoe down the touchline at full pace. Breathtaking balance.

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              @TeWaio not sure what is going on with Clarke, the balance issues weren’t a problem at the Blues for the past three years.

                              He’ll do something incredible, and then explicably fall over. His pros aren’t matched by any of the other wingers, so I can see why they are persisting with him but Jesus put on some longer sprigs or something.

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                              @Kirwan said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                              @TeWaio not sure what is going on with Clarke, the balance issues weren’t a problem at the Blues for the past three years.

                              He’ll do something incredible, and then explicably fall over. His pros aren’t matched by any of the other wingers, so I can see why they are persisting with him but Jesus put on some longer sprigs or something.

                              Perhaps he's just trying too hard? He's anything but a lazy winger and goes looking for work so may need to just relax a bit.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                Interesting to hear Beaudy say Telea weighed in at over 100kg.

                                Explains Telea's power in contact.

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                                @KiwiMurph Looks like he's supplanted his provincial team mate in the pecking order, with Big Leicester sent to the ABs XV.

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300737237/mark-telea-to-make-debut-as-all-blacks-ring-changes-to-face-scotland-in-edinburgh

                                Hinton giving credit where it's due even if he's a season behind the times! 🙂

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @KiwiMurph Looks like he's supplanted his provincial team mate in the pecking order, with Big Leicester sent to the ABs XV.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300737237/mark-telea-to-make-debut-as-all-blacks-ring-changes-to-face-scotland-in-edinburgh

                                  Hinton giving credit where it's due even if he's a season behind the times! 🙂

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  @Chris-B Left vs right winger. LF would need to play in place of Clarke.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @TeWaio said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    This was the most exceptional thing about Jonah IMO

                                    Arguably the most balanced runner I've seen. Never forget Jonah scoring against Scotland in '96 (great game with Cullen scoring at will and the Jocks putting over 30 pts on us) and appearing to tiptoe down the touchline at full pace. Breathtaking balance.

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                                    canefan
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                                    #202

                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    @TeWaio said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                    This was the most exceptional thing about Jonah IMO

                                    Arguably the most balanced runner I've seen. Never forget Jonah scoring against Scotland in '96 (great game with Cullen scoring at will and the Jocks putting over 30 pts on us) and appearing to tiptoe down the touchline at full pace. Breathtaking balance.

                                    Jonah and Cullen for me. CC was amazing stepping off either foot without losing pace. We were very lucky to have them both at the same time

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                                    • CrucialC Crucial

                                      Love all the posts complaining about not having the “best” team.
                                      We’ve had a shit season so far that has meant little opportunities to bring the whole possible squad into things as much as we need and are taking an opportunity against the lowly Scots.
                                      Are you guys scared of Scotland all of a sudden?

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                                      #203

                                      @Crucial said in All Blacks vs Scotland:

                                      Love all the posts complaining about not having the “best” team.
                                      We’ve had a shit season so far that has meant little opportunities to bring the whole possible squad into things as much as we need and are taking an opportunity against the lowly Scots.
                                      Are you guys scared of Scotland all of a sudden?

                                      They probably weren’t scared of Argentina at home either

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                                        Damo
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                                        #204

                                        It's also worth noting we are yet to play 2 good games in a row all year.

                                        This was a perfect opportunity to follow up the win against Wales with a good performance. Instead I worry we are heading for a scratchy rusty performance, probably squeaking through at the end.

                                        We need to rescue our aura through big wins against middling opponents ts.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          @Chris-B Left vs right winger. LF would need to play in place of Clarke.

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                                          #205

                                          @Bovidae I reckon Leicester will need an absolute stormer (and Clarke have a shocker) this week if he's to get a game for the real ABs this tour.

                                          I think it's quite a bit more likely that we'll see Reiko on the left wing than Leicester vs England.

                                          It's almost shaping up for that - otherwise Caleb will start 4 games straight.

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