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NZ v Pakistan 2022/23

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    Pakistan will be a bit concerned if we take 20 off the first over!

    Open with Conway and Mitchell?

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      @ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:

      @voodoo said in NZ v Pakistan:

      @ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:

      @voodoo I thought Mitchell has been at slip for last few overs?

      Back in last ball. Wasn’t last few balls

      But why don’t we have 2 slips in, a short leg, we should be surrounding the bat

      Slip gone again last ball!

      For Hamza yes, but Shakeel is too good a bat for us to crowd him.

      What does that even mean??? Too good for what??? We can’t possibly lose the game, how does it make sense to not attack one very way possible??!!

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      @voodoo said in NZ v Pakistan:

      @ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:

      @voodoo said in NZ v Pakistan:

      @ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:

      @voodoo I thought Mitchell has been at slip for last few overs?

      Back in last ball. Wasn’t last few balls

      But why don’t we have 2 slips in, a short leg, we should be surrounding the bat

      Slip gone again last ball!

      For Hamza yes, but Shakeel is too good a bat for us to crowd him.

      What does that even mean??? Too good for what??? We can’t possibly lose the game, how does it make sense to not attack one very way possible??!!

      Shakeel was hitting our bowlers around, so why bring in the fielders around the bat, other than for them to get smashed at? The bowling wasn’t good enough plain and simple.

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      • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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        ACT Crusader
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        Bracewell to open. Hahahahahaha

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        • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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          ACT Crusader
          wrote on last edited by ACT Crusader
          #218

          Done for bounce (lack of). Bracewell gone

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            Done for bounce (lack of). Bracewell gone

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            canefan
            wrote on last edited by canefan
            #219

            @ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:

            Done for bounce (lack of). Bracewell gone

            Journeyman at best. Bracewell is simply not international class

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            • DamoD Offline
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              I have to say this is pretty stupid from Pakistan.

              It's very, very unlikely we will get these runs, but it's not impossible.

              Pakistan getting 10 wickets on the other hand is vanishingly unlikely.

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              • DamoD Damo

                I have to say this is pretty stupid from Pakistan.

                It's very, very unlikely we will get these runs, but it's not impossible.

                Pakistan getting 10 wickets on the other hand is vanishingly unlikely.

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                Chris
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                #221

                @Damo said in NZ v Pakistan:

                I have to say this is pretty stupid from Pakistan.

                It's very, very unlikely we will get these runs, but it's not impossible.

                Pakistan getting 10 wickets on the other hand is vanishingly unlikely.

                I think it’s great from Pakistan ,Test Cricket needs brave decelerations,Awesome for the game.
                And great from NZ they are taking it on great watching.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @Damo said in NZ v Pakistan:

                  I have to say this is pretty stupid from Pakistan.

                  It's very, very unlikely we will get these runs, but it's not impossible.

                  Pakistan getting 10 wickets on the other hand is vanishingly unlikely.

                  I think it’s great from Pakistan ,Test Cricket needs brave decelerations,Awesome for the game.
                  And great from NZ they are taking it on great watching.

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                  Damo
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                  #222

                  @Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:

                  @Damo said in NZ v Pakistan:

                  I have to say this is pretty stupid from Pakistan.

                  It's very, very unlikely we will get these runs, but it's not impossible.

                  Pakistan getting 10 wickets on the other hand is vanishingly unlikely.

                  I think it’s great from Pakistan ,Test Cricket needs brave decelerations,Awesome for the game.
                  And great from NZ they are taking it on great watching.

                  What if they lose, with no real possibility of winning?

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                  • DamoD Damo

                    @Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:

                    @Damo said in NZ v Pakistan:

                    I have to say this is pretty stupid from Pakistan.

                    It's very, very unlikely we will get these runs, but it's not impossible.

                    Pakistan getting 10 wickets on the other hand is vanishingly unlikely.

                    I think it’s great from Pakistan ,Test Cricket needs brave decelerations,Awesome for the game.
                    And great from NZ they are taking it on great watching.

                    What if they lose, with no real possibility of winning?

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                    Chris
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #223

                    @Damo said in NZ v Pakistan:

                    @Chris said in NZ v Pakistan:

                    @Damo said in NZ v Pakistan:

                    I have to say this is pretty stupid from Pakistan.

                    It's very, very unlikely we will get these runs, but it's not impossible.

                    Pakistan getting 10 wickets on the other hand is vanishingly unlikely.

                    I think it’s great from Pakistan ,Test Cricket needs brave decelerations,Awesome for the game.
                    And great from NZ they are taking it on great watching.

                    What if they lose, with no real possibility of winning?

                    Still brave and great for Cricket.

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                    • ChrisC Offline
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                      Chris
                      wrote on last edited by Chris
                      #224

                      Latham is going brilliantly picking his hitting areas very well.
                      Should have never opened with Bracewell he wasted 5 balls.

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                      • MajorPomM Offline
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                        MajorPom
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                        #225

                        Looks like light is going to win this one.

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                        • ChrisC Offline
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                          Chris
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                          #226

                          Shame it was shaping up as a very interesting finish.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                            ACT Crusader
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                            #227

                            Oh well, we had a go.

                            Pakistan batsmen (lower order) saved the match after our big innings.

                            They all seem to love Kane!

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              Latham is going brilliantly picking his hitting areas very well.
                              Should have never opened with Bracewell he wasted 5 balls.

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                              ACT Crusader
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                              @Chris I would’ve opened with Latham and Conway and then bought in Mitchell at 3.

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                Oh well, we had a go.

                                Pakistan batsmen (lower order) saved the match after our big innings.

                                They all seem to love Kane!

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                                #229

                                @ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:

                                Oh well, we had a go.

                                Pakistan batsmen (lower order) saved the match after our big innings.

                                They all seem to love Kane!

                                Ish did great, but the rest just couldn't eke out the tail fast enough

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                                  antipodean
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                                  Pakistan batted the second innings to avoid a loss. Which meant not enough time to realise a result.

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                                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                    @Chris I would’ve opened with Latham and Conway and then bought in Mitchell at 3.

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                                    Chris
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #231

                                    @ACT-Crusader said in NZ v Pakistan:

                                    @Chris I would’ve opened with Latham and Conway and then bought in Mitchell at 3.

                                    Yep me too

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                                      delicatessen
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                                      #232

                                      Frustrating watch, the end of Pakistan's second innings. Bracewell was bowling an excellent line, but it was consistently way too full. Every ball could be smothered on a pitch that was offering a small amount of turn and a small amount of variable bounce.
                                      If he'd bowled the exact same line but on a length or slightly back of a length, we've had chances to take wickets long before we did.
                                      It's not so much about being so accurate that the batsmen hesitate about going forward or coming back, it's about ensuring they play off the back foot as much as possible, giving every opportunity for a variation in spin or bounce to beat the bat. On the odd occasion he misses it slightly full, it should be in that magical block hole area anyway.

                                      Very frustrating seeing the ball tossed to Bracewell every second over, and no one (that I saw) asking him to change a plan that clearly wasn't working.

                                      Others have said he's not an international cricketer. I think he has the skills to bowl in a match like this - he's accurate, turns the ball, and can vary speed pretty well - but his tactics will need a tickle-up if he's to progress.

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                                        No Quarter
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                                        #233

                                        Anyway, that's a really good performance, and only a couple of wickets away from victory. Pakistan only just hung on to save that match, which is not the outcome I was expecting going into it. Spin is not really our strength, great to see Ish getting some wickets by not overly surprised we weren't as threatening as you'd hope. Ajaz was largely ineffective which is probably the biggest disappointment given his recent success against in India, if he could have at least grabbed a couple in the 2nd innings then it would have been all on. The team can take a lot of confidence from that performance though.

                                        Oh, and Kane is just amazing.

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                                        • ChrisC Offline
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                                          Chris
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                                          Positives out of the test
                                          Batting was very good,Kane,Latham,Conway were excellent,Good signs from Mitchell and Sodhi did a great job at 8.

                                          We missed a couple of chances in the field but pretty good.

                                          Sodhi really good with the ball,Patel and Bracewell very disappointing.Southee tried hard not much in the pitch for him.

                                          I don't see Bracewell as a test player he gets in bad positions all the time when he bats in test matches and he can not read a googly he gets done every time..
                                          Really he doesn't turn the ball he got some perches out of the rough to LH but didn't look threatening at all too full or lost his line and length which I have all seen before from him.

                                          I would replace him with Phillips for the 2nd test.He can roll his arm over just as effectively as Bracewell gun fielder and his attacking style batting will unsettle the Pakistan spinners 20 or 30 from Phillips is better than 0 or 1 from Bracewell.
                                          If Phillips gets away he could do some real damage.

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