Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!
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@Kirwan said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?
Are they enforceable in Australia?
Googled it;
"Restriction of trade clauses are enforceable up to a certain extent. In order for them to be enforced, they must protect the employer’s legitimate business interest (i.e. a trade secret) or the reputation of the business."
I guess player details and team tactics could be seen as trade secrets, but seems a stretch to me. Lawyer up Rennie and hit the gym.
@Kirwan said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Kirwan said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@taniwharugby said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Catogrande yeah the old restraint of trade clauses...but I guess if he is still paid in full through to end of year it isn't affecting his ability to earn a living, which is where those clauses usually come unstuck for most jobs?
Are they enforceable in Australia?
Googled it;
"Restriction of trade clauses are enforceable up to a certain extent. In order for them to be enforced, they must protect the employer’s legitimate business interest (i.e. a trade secret) or the reputation of the business."
I guess player details and team tactics could be seen as trade secrets, but seems a stretch to me. Lawyer up Rennie and hit the gym.
Would love to see the "reputation of the business" tested in court!
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@voodoo said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
“You wait, you get the Wallabies winning, we win the World Cup, we win the British & Irish Lions series, we win the Bledisloe Cup, it all comes back.”
Sounds like a bar fly on the pokies - "Just one more tap of the buttons and I'll get it all back!"
As for McLennan's injection of toughness?
These are coddled idiots who appoint Community Rugby people who have never ever been involved in the game. RA HQ is bloated and self-serving and, despite having the broom put through it when COVID hit, could easily get rid of that many staff again to sharpen up the bottom line.@NTA said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@voodoo said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
“You wait, you get the Wallabies winning, we win the World Cup, we win the British & Irish Lions series, we win the Bledisloe Cup, it all comes back.”
Sounds like a bar fly on the pokies - "Just one more tap of the buttons and I'll get it all back!"
As for McLennan's injection of toughness?
These are coddled idiots who appoint Community Rugby people who have never ever been involved in the game. RA HQ is bloated and self-serving and, despite having the broom put through it when COVID hit, could easily get rid of that many staff again to sharpen up the bottom line.But the remainder are
unemployable idiotsmates... -
I agree with the decison ….
But this is one hell of a statement. I don’t think the Wallabies have the depth / players for this
You wait, you get the Wallabies winning, we win the World Cup, we win the British & Irish Lions series, we win the Bledisloe Cup, it all comes back.”What’s the view from GAGR?
@MajorRage said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
What’s the view from GAGR?
Mostly:
- feel bad for Rennie who seemed like a top bloke, got us going in the right direction, and got a horror run of injuries
- BUT results matter, ultimately.
- There are those old enough to remember Eddie's last stint, and are wary of his faults including shelf life
- However there is a general belief that he could provide some real impetus heading into a RWC year
Like me, a lot of people are numb to whatever RA are doing in their decision making process. "Yeah sure. Throw it on the pile with the rest... "
On the plus side, Eddie was on one of our major FTA morning shows (Channel Nine's Today Show which is the network aligned with Stan streaming, our rugby platform), and there are promo videos happening e.g. this is brand new and popping up in the feed of all subscribers and anyone the algo deems is "Rugby" and "Australia"
So the PR side of things looks like it'll get a boost... at least until NRL and AFL seasons start.
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.What probably got Rennie sacked was the 38% win rate. .All they were looking at was essentially the bottom line. His end of year tour wasn't that bad as they were unlucky to loose narrowly to Ireland and France. The series loss to England was also very close. Saw an article which is for subcribers which says he is on the All Blacks radar, wonder what will be his next move.
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They went from a coach with a 38% win rate who just lost to Italy and has never coached at a World Cup to a coach with much more international success including success at 4 different World Cups.
I could see Wallabies making a real run at the RWC this year given their side of the draw and Eddie's intimate knowledge of England and Wales.
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They went from a coach with a 38% win rate who just lost to Italy and has never coached at a World Cup to a coach with much more international success including success at 4 different World Cups.
I could see Wallabies making a real run at the RWC this year given their side of the draw and Eddie's intimate knowledge of England and Wales.
@KiwiMurph said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
They went from a coach with a 38% win rate who just lost to Italy and has never coached at a World Cup to a coach with much more international success including success at 4 different World Cups.
I could see Wallabies making a real run at the RWC this year given their side of the draw and Eddie's intimate knowledge of England and Wales.
He will still be fresh to the players so they will be better
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@KiwiMurph said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
They went from a coach with a 38% win rate who just lost to Italy and has never coached at a World Cup to a coach with much more international success including success at 4 different World Cups.
I could see Wallabies making a real run at the RWC this year given their side of the draw and Eddie's intimate knowledge of England and Wales.
He will still be fresh to the players so they will be better
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Interesting headline. Didn't read the article.
https://twitter.com/TelegraphRugby/status/1615083860378718209
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no one knows what Rennie would have achieved next year with a fit squad. So saying Eddie "will be better" is another bullshit excuse created to make this seem like an amazing hire.
If Eddie is down to 4th choice in a bunch of positions he aint' winning shit either
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Interesting to see over the last year Eddie has coached England to 4 wins, a draw and 7 losses,(31% wins) so while hes a good coach I not convinced he a wonder coach.
@Dan54 He will have a point to prove. I remember he got very fired up at the end of the England series when a spectator called him a traitor. If he gets early success at our expense I can see us bringing in Wayne Smith or even Razor in some role. Still not clear if Rennie has some role in the All Blacks camp or not, his recent record against Eddie is not that shabbie,
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@Nevorian said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Bones said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Fucken RA say hold my beer to NZR!
Is there a longer coaching contract out there at the moment? Outstanding to sign a coach who the world has figured out is two seasons tops to a contract like that... when you already have a coach!
My only fear now is just what lengths Robinson is going to go to, to devise the reinstatement of his incompetence crown.
They figure two seasons would be enough to win Bledisloe and Bill. I think Wallabies will get a spike in their performance in that time, hopefully not at our expense
Dead cat bounce?
@booboo said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Nevorian said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Bones said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Fucken RA say hold my beer to NZR!
Is there a longer coaching contract out there at the moment? Outstanding to sign a coach who the world has figured out is two seasons tops to a contract like that... when you already have a coach!
My only fear now is just what lengths Robinson is going to go to, to devise the reinstatement of his incompetence crown.
They figure two seasons would be enough to win Bledisloe and Bill. I think Wallabies will get a spike in their performance in that time, hopefully not at our expense
Dead cat bounce?
Yes another good term for it.
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@Dan54 He will have a point to prove. I remember he got very fired up at the end of the England series when a spectator called him a traitor. If he gets early success at our expense I can see us bringing in Wayne Smith or even Razor in some role. Still not clear if Rennie has some role in the All Blacks camp or not, his recent record against Eddie is not that shabbie,
@SBW1 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Dan54 He will have a point to prove. I remember he got very fired up at the end of the England series when a spectator called him a traitor. If he gets early success at our expense I can see us bringing in Wayne Smith or even Razor in some role. Still not clear if Rennie has some role in the All Blacks camp or not, his recent record against Eddie is not that shabbie,
Actually when you look Wallabies actually had a 35.7% record in 2022 so better than Englnds.
Rennie won't get a role with ABs, as well as his record , he I think is on a leave clause that would prevent him doing another job before WC.
Will almost guarante Smith won't be back he has made it so clear his days are over, and can't see any role for Razor (even if his ego did allow the thought)
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They went from a coach with a 38% win rate who just lost to Italy and has never coached at a World Cup to a coach with much more international success including success at 4 different World Cups.
I could see Wallabies making a real run at the RWC this year given their side of the draw and Eddie's intimate knowledge of England and Wales.
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@Nevorian said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Bones said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Fucken RA say hold my beer to NZR!
Is there a longer coaching contract out there at the moment? Outstanding to sign a coach who the world has figured out is two seasons tops to a contract like that... when you already have a coach!
My only fear now is just what lengths Robinson is going to go to, to devise the reinstatement of his incompetence crown.
They figure two seasons would be enough to win Bledisloe and Bill. I think Wallabies will get a spike in their performance in that time, hopefully not at our expense
Oh I'd agree with that. But he's signed to a 5 year contract isn't he? Or have I misread?
@Bones said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Nevorian said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
@Bones said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
Fucken RA say hold my beer to NZR!
Is there a longer coaching contract out there at the moment? Outstanding to sign a coach who the world has figured out is two seasons tops to a contract like that... when you already have a coach!
My only fear now is just what lengths Robinson is going to go to, to devise the reinstatement of his incompetence crown.
They figure two seasons would be enough to win Bledisloe and Bill. I think Wallabies will get a spike in their performance in that time, hopefully not at our expense
Oh I'd agree with that. But he's signed to a 5 year contract isn't he? Or have I misread?
Yep That is right but am thinking the goal will be to win the Bledisloe straight away ( while NZ Rugby is a bit vulnerable). Don’t think they can win this WC but they should get an improvement in their world rankings ( can’t get any worse can it?). Should be able to beat the BILs at home.
Also 4.5M deal - I thought RA were broke?
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.What probably got Rennie sacked was the 38% win rate. .All they were looking at was essentially the bottom line. His end of year tour wasn't that bad as they were unlucky to loose narrowly to Ireland and France. The series loss to England was also very close. Saw an article which is for subcribers which says he is on the All Blacks radar, wonder what will be his next move.
@SBW1 said in Rennie Sacked, Eddie In!:
.What probably got Rennie sacked was the 38% win rate. .All they were looking at was essentially the bottom line. His end of year tour wasn't that bad as they were unlucky to loose narrowly to Ireland and France. The series loss to England was also very close. Saw an article which is for subcribers which says he is on the All Blacks radar, wonder what will be his next move.
I read it was the Italy match...
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My question has been answered in this article. It shows the RFU in a completely different light to RA.
The RFU on Monday defended the decision not to impose any restrictions on Jones, a practice that is often commonplace in blue chip companies when a senior employee is paid off.
“When the RFU ended Eddie’s role as England head coach, having considered both the legal and moral perspectives, it was decided it would be unreasonable to restrict Eddie in seeking alternative employment,” said an RFU spokesperson.
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bro this cockstain from the ARU's whole gig is "owning the kiwis" and aussie "supporters" fucking love it.
He can strut around talking about how he "got Eddie AND screwed over a kiwi" what a fucking deadset legend and idiotic fluffybunnies from Randwick will pull him off for it.
Good luck to them. Rugby in NZ needs Australia to be strong. I hope it works
Of course, that would make Eddie a magician considering RA have been chasing this dragon for nigh on 14 years and it's probably getting worse not better no matter how many sacrifices are put on the coaching altar.
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@Dan54 He will have a point to prove. I remember he got very fired up at the end of the England series when a spectator called him a traitor. If he gets early success at our expense I can see us bringing in Wayne Smith or even Razor in some role. Still not clear if Rennie has some role in the All Blacks camp or not, his recent record against Eddie is not that shabbie,
