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England v Scotland 6N

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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

    Is there anything better than watching England lose?

    Well done Scotland.

    Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

    2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

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    @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

    @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

    Is there anything better than watching England lose?

    Well done Scotland.

    Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

    2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

    Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      Watched the game in the pub which is not best for a critical overview but great from an enjoyment of the experience perspective. Given that caveat, my thoughts are that primarily England seemed to be playing several different defensive patterns, they were all over the place. VDM’s try a case in point. Well taken and all and we can point at some poor tackling but where was the structure in the first place?

      In attack it was much the same story. Was anyone on the same page once it got close to the line? 2 well worked tries showed what we could do but it was almost like they were accidents.

      Can anyone explain the logic of box kicking when you’re hot on attack in the last third of the field when the opposition are all at sea? Time after time? When it hasn’t worked previously?

      Thought not.

      Enough whinging. Well done to the Jocks, who took their limited opportunities very well and were good value for the win.

      Oh and welcome back @Luigi

      What a fucking horrible day to be an Englishman eh?

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      @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

      Given that caveat, my thoughts are that primarily England seemed to be playing several different defensive patterns, they were all over the place. VDM’s try a case in point. Well taken and all and we can point at some poor tackling but where was the structure in the first place?

      Very good defensive pattern when it was a standing line with no breaks, but the first line was breached and then the cover compressed, and forgot where VDM's legs were.

      First line: 12 and 13 too far apart on the chase - neither got close.
      Second line: covering forwards who were running straight upfield instead of diagonally to cover a break. One hand on.
      Third line: 15 who gets stepped but didn't exactly rush the carrier.
      Fourth line: 9 who gets stepped covering so somewhat forgiveable.
      Last line: think it was the #8 who went way too high 10 metres out as he chased back.

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          Absolutely superb game of rugby.

          England are very close to being a real threat, Scotland are already there. I said our Autumn win over them wasn’t celebrated enough, what will it take to realize Scotland are a seriously good team?

          I’ve been pushing Finn Russel big time as one of the games best talents and I think he played the worst I’ve ever seen him. Accuracy was off and lost every kicking dual.

          Yet, Scotland still won. Something to ponder.

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            Absolutely superb game of rugby.

            England are very close to being a real threat, Scotland are already there. I said our Autumn win over them wasn’t celebrated enough, what will it take to realize Scotland are a seriously good team?

            I’ve been pushing Finn Russel big time as one of the games best talents and I think he played the worst I’ve ever seen him. Accuracy was off and lost every kicking dual.

            Yet, Scotland still won. Something to ponder.

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            @MajorRage said in England v Scotland 6N:

            Absolutely superb game of rugby.

            England are very close to being a real threat, Scotland are already there. I said our Autumn win over them wasn’t celebrated enough, what will it take to realize Scotland are a seriously good team?

            I’ve been pushing Finn Russel big time as one of the games best talents and I think he played the worst I’ve ever seen him. Accuracy was off and lost every kicking dual.

            Yet, Scotland still won. Something to ponder.

            They’ve ALWAYS lifted against England though only to stumble in the following game against anyone not Italy.

            I’m not getting too excited yet.

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              Always a nice thing to see.

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                Thought it was noteworthy that the excellent England try to Malins had zero involvement from Marcus Smith.

                He adds very little.

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  Thought it was noteworthy that the excellent England try to Malins had zero involvement from Marcus Smith.

                  He adds very little.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in England v Scotland 6N:

                  Thought it was noteworthy that the excellent England try to Malins had zero involvement from Marcus Smith.

                  He adds very little.

                  Don't write him off completely. Kid does have talent and it isn't his fault that 10s like him are rare in England so he is developing while playing.
                  Agree that he currently isn't up to speed but he could get there and be very good.
                  His (lack of) defence is about at the same poor level that BB and RM showed when they first played tests.

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    Always a nice thing to see.

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                    @Frank I do love how the mouthy git goes very silent when he can see defeat looming.

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                      Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).

                      Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?

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                      • MajorPomM MajorPom

                        Absolutely superb game of rugby.

                        England are very close to being a real threat, Scotland are already there. I said our Autumn win over them wasn’t celebrated enough, what will it take to realize Scotland are a seriously good team?

                        I’ve been pushing Finn Russel big time as one of the games best talents and I think he played the worst I’ve ever seen him. Accuracy was off and lost every kicking dual.

                        Yet, Scotland still won. Something to ponder.

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                        @MajorRage said in England v Scotland 6N:

                        what will it take to realize Scotland are a seriously good team?

                        When they beat the ABs

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                          That enormous gap Smith left for Scotland's first try. Looks like England have their own Mo'unga.

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                            20:29 on the clock and England go diving off their feet at a ruck and Williams ignores it, only to penalise Scotland for not supporting bodyweight 21 seconds later.

                            It's like a Scottish player pointing it out results in the following cementing itself in his brain: Scotland, ruck, penalty.

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                              VDM making England's defence look park like. A scything run and finish I haven't seen since Cullen.

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                              • NTAN NTA

                                @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                Is there anything better than watching England lose?

                                Well done Scotland.

                                Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

                                2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

                                Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

                                1be40556-4218-4e81-b5a3-b5895782e2e8-image.png

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                                @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                Is there anything better than watching England lose?

                                Well done Scotland.

                                Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

                                2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

                                Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

                                1be40556-4218-4e81-b5a3-b5895782e2e8-image.png

                                Why are you posting winter temperatures?

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  VDM making England's defence look park like. A scything run and finish I haven't seen since Cullen.

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                                  @antipodean looked more JK-like v Italy than Cully IMO, not to mention has that similar upright running style as JK

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                                  • boobooB booboo

                                    @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                    @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                    @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                    Is there anything better than watching England lose?

                                    Well done Scotland.

                                    Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

                                    2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

                                    Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

                                    1be40556-4218-4e81-b5a3-b5895782e2e8-image.png

                                    Why are you posting winter temperatures?

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                                    @booboo said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                    @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                    @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                    @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                    Is there anything better than watching England lose?

                                    Well done Scotland.

                                    Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

                                    2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

                                    Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

                                    1be40556-4218-4e81-b5a3-b5895782e2e8-image.png

                                    Why are you posting winter temperatures?

                                    Because SE Qld temperatures suck

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @booboo said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      Is there anything better than watching England lose?

                                      Well done Scotland.

                                      Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

                                      2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

                                      Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

                                      1be40556-4218-4e81-b5a3-b5895782e2e8-image.png

                                      Why are you posting winter temperatures?

                                      Because SE Qld temperatures suck

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                                      @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      @booboo said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      @Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      @NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                      Is there anything better than watching England lose?

                                      Well done Scotland.

                                      Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.

                                      2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!

                                      Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

                                      1be40556-4218-4e81-b5a3-b5895782e2e8-image.png

                                      Why are you posting winter temperatures?

                                      Because SE Qld temperatures suck

                                      True right now

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                                      • CrucialC Crucial

                                        Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).

                                        Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?

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                                        @Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:

                                        Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).

                                        Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?

                                        Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.

                                        Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi

                                        Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.

                                        This face made me smile

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                                        Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful

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                                          Pretty impressed with the Scots forwards' passing toward the end (which was all I watched). Awesome to see endeavour rewarded, that game was as good or better than a Rugby Championship tussle.

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