England v Scotland 6N
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VDM making England's defence look park like. A scything run and finish I haven't seen since Cullen.
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@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
Is there anything better than watching England lose?
Well done Scotland.
Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.
2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!
Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
Is there anything better than watching England lose?
Well done Scotland.
Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.
2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!
Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

Why are you posting winter temperatures?
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VDM making England's defence look park like. A scything run and finish I haven't seen since Cullen.
@antipodean looked more JK-like v Italy than Cully IMO, not to mention has that similar upright running style as JK
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@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
Is there anything better than watching England lose?
Well done Scotland.
Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.
2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!
Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

Why are you posting winter temperatures?
@booboo said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
Is there anything better than watching England lose?
Well done Scotland.
Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.
2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!
Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

Why are you posting winter temperatures?
Because SE Qld temperatures suck
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@booboo said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
Is there anything better than watching England lose?
Well done Scotland.
Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.
2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!
Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

Why are you posting winter temperatures?
Because SE Qld temperatures suck
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
@booboo said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
Is there anything better than watching England lose?
Well done Scotland.
Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.
2-1 ya bread stealer. 2-1!
Stole bread to get an actual summer. Bargain.

Why are you posting winter temperatures?
Because SE Qld temperatures suck
True right now
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Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:
Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.
Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi
Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.
This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful
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Pretty impressed with the Scots forwards' passing toward the end (which was all I watched). Awesome to see endeavour rewarded, that game was as good or better than a Rugby Championship tussle.
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Watched the game in the pub which is not best for a critical overview but great from an enjoyment of the experience perspective. Given that caveat, my thoughts are that primarily England seemed to be playing several different defensive patterns, they were all over the place. VDM’s try a case in point. Well taken and all and we can point at some poor tackling but where was the structure in the first place?
In attack it was much the same story. Was anyone on the same page once it got close to the line? 2 well worked tries showed what we could do but it was almost like they were accidents.
Can anyone explain the logic of box kicking when you’re hot on attack in the last third of the field when the opposition are all at sea? Time after time? When it hasn’t worked previously?
Thought not.
Enough whinging. Well done to the Jocks, who took their limited opportunities very well and were good value for the win.
Oh and welcome back @Luigi
What a fucking horrible day to be an Englishman eh?
@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
Can anyone explain the logic of box kicking when you’re hot on attack in the last third of the field when the opposition are all at sea? Time after time? When it hasn’t worked previously?
Thought not.
What rubbish. Haven’t you been watching the AB’s over the last few years? We do this all the time!
And it’s bound to come off at some point
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@Catogrande said in England v Scotland 6N:
Can anyone explain the logic of box kicking when you’re hot on attack in the last third of the field when the opposition are all at sea? Time after time? When it hasn’t worked previously?
Thought not.
What rubbish. Haven’t you been watching the AB’s over the last few years? We do this all the time!
And it’s bound to come off at some point
@voodoo It is hard to see why it is done from the cheap seats. Wayne Smith said it wasn't good and took it out of the Black Ferns game. Cocksedge's box kicks changed to be for distance when the opposition fullback was out of position. Worked a charm in the final.
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@MajorRage said in England v Scotland 6N:
what will it take to realize Scotland are a seriously good team?
When they beat the ABs
@NTA said in England v Scotland 6N:
@MajorRage said in England v Scotland 6N:
what will it take to realize Scotland are a seriously good team?
When they beat the ABs
Harsh but true.
Best chance ever late last year and they still fucked it.
Good enough to knock over anyone else on their day though ( which is true of the top 10 in Rugby to be fair, even crap teams like Australia
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@voodoo It is hard to see why it is done from the cheap seats. Wayne Smith said it wasn't good and took it out of the Black Ferns game. Cocksedge's box kicks changed to be for distance when the opposition fullback was out of position. Worked a charm in the final.
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in England v Scotland 6N:
@voodoo It is hard to see why it is done from the cheap seats. Wayne Smith said it wasn't good and took it out of the Black Ferns game. Cocksedge's box kicks changed to be for distance when the opposition fullback was out of position. Worked a charm in the final.
Yeah. It makes sense to do a shallower one when you have nothing happening in attack and you think you can get real defensive pressure on the catcher. But we do often watched that heel go back, that box kick go up, and a pathetic chasing line ignore the chase
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20:29 on the clock and England go diving off their feet at a ruck and Williams ignores it, only to penalise Scotland for not supporting bodyweight 21 seconds later.
It's like a Scottish player pointing it out results in the following cementing itself in his brain: Scotland, ruck, penalty.
@antipodean said in England v Scotland 6N:
20:29 on the clock and England go diving off their feet at a ruck and Williams ignores it, only to penalise Scotland for not supporting bodyweight 21 seconds later.
It's like a Scottish player pointing it out results in the following cementing itself in his brain: Scotland, ruck, penalty.
There were a few (both ways) where the player supermanned it in and I wondered if they'd changed the GMGs up there or whether Dickson was just being too polite.
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Watched both games and can’t remember if the refs in either went to the TMO for anything.
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Is there anything better than watching England lose?
Well done Scotland.
Marcus Smith isn't getting any better, England fans.
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@Bones said in England v Scotland 6N:
Pretty horrible to see VdM run straight through Smith for the try.
Get fucked. That was poetry. Like a white Jonah.
@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Bones said in England v Scotland 6N:
Pretty horrible to see VdM run straight through Smith for the try.
Get fucked. That was poetry. Like a white Jonah.
https://media.tenor.com/2odOtkxxOuQAAAAM/that-was-the-joke-johnny.gif
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@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:
Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.
Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi
Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.
This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful
@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:
Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.
Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi
Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.
This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful
Still MOM. Good on him.
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@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Bones said in England v Scotland 6N:
Pretty horrible to see VdM run straight through Smith for the try.
Get fucked. That was poetry. Like a white Jonah.
https://media.tenor.com/2odOtkxxOuQAAAAM/that-was-the-joke-johnny.gif
@Bones said in England v Scotland 6N:
@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Bones said in England v Scotland 6N:
Pretty horrible to see VdM run straight through Smith for the try.
Get fucked. That was poetry. Like a white Jonah.
https://media.tenor.com/2odOtkxxOuQAAAAM/that-was-the-joke-johnny.gif
Actually more like a white Roy Kinikinilau.
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@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:
Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.
Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi
Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.
This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful
Still MOM. Good on him.
@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:
Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.
Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi
Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.
This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful
Still MOM. Good on him.
Yeah, they're so accurate in assessment, press MotM

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@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:
Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.
Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi
Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.
This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful
Still MOM. Good on him.
Yeah, they're so accurate in assessment, press MotM

@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:
@MN5 said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Machpants said in England v Scotland 6N:
@Crucial said in England v Scotland 6N:
Question for those that sat through the whole game (and the other one).
Were the 'time wasting' changes evident? Lineouts? Scrums? Fake injuries?
Yes, only on the last line out was there anything towards time waring, England didn't huddled but they talked and walked slowly in.
Referees were awesome, will done team kiwi
Two tens don't work England, especially with a light weight 13. No dead cat bounce fit England, how will it work for Oz? I'm glad their idea of playing like South Africa with kicking didn't pay off. I'm half English, but I fall back on my Scottish ancestry side in any team with Farrell in it, although Maro was not his normal utter tosser self.
This face made me smile

Scotland played a more fun brand of rugby and got away with it, now ranked fifth in the world! Clan de Merwe scored some great tries, but he jammed in on defence so often, he was awful
Still MOM. Good on him.
Yeah, they're so accurate in assessment, press MotM

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