All Blacks 2023
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@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
“Summit” is usually code for a talkfest. Let’s hope it actually comes to something
No code. They are quite clear that this was just a discussion between forward coaches to get some alignment for RWC year on playing to current ref trends and being more effective.
Sounds a good idea to me.So coaches doing their job. Hardly newsworthy, but hey let’s put the summit tag on it and make it more than it really is.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
@Crucial said in All Blacks 2023:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2023:
“Summit” is usually code for a talkfest. Let’s hope it actually comes to something
No code. They are quite clear that this was just a discussion between forward coaches to get some alignment for RWC year on playing to current ref trends and being more effective.
Sounds a good idea to me.So coaches doing their job. Hardly newsworthy, but hey let’s put the summit tag on it and make it more than it really is.
Not sure where you are coming from here.
It is a 'summit meeting' because it is competing coaches getting some alignment for the good of the peak selections. Normally they would "do their job" as individuals because that is the way the franchises are set up and managed.
I think it is worth letting fans know. The comment that NZ rugby should be working together for a common goal and playing alignment is often made on here. Now we can see that it does actually happen. -
@Crucial you can’t see that it’s spin and giving the appearance that they are “doing more”? You would expect that coaches have more contact during a RWC year, which has happened previously without the tagline or articles. And I’m all for that, but given all the furore over the last few months you know the PR was more important than the substance of any ‘summit’.
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im with @ACT-Crusader here...." to get some alignment for RWC year on playing to current ref trends and being more effective" definitely sounds like what they should be doing....like all the time...every day
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im with @ACT-Crusader here...." to get some alignment for RWC year on playing to current ref trends and being more effective" definitely sounds like what they should be doing....like all the time...every day
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
im with @ACT-Crusader here...." to get some alignment for RWC year on playing to current ref trends and being more effective" definitely sounds like what they should be doing....like all the time...every day
Definitely not 'all the time...every day'. That leads to group think and way too much similarity.
Of course the coaches do get together an discuss trends but this is being painted as a little bit more than that. Getting forwards to use the same techniques to counter lineout drive mauls means that they get more practice and are ready when they hit the ABs.
I get what @ACT-Crusader is saying. I just think he is being way too cynical. There may be an assumption that this stuff is done anyway but I don't have an issue with it being released to the press. All Press Releases are effectively spin but some also contain some information that is interesting and highlight something good that is going on. -
@Kiwiwomble guess alot will depend on what Fozzie sees as his best way to win the rwc...rookie debutant or safe experience.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kiwiwomble guess alot will depend on what Fozzie sees as his best way to win the rwc...rookie debutant or safe experience.
Well you know - Foster with his track record of wild out of the blue, risk taking selections and all...
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2023:
@Kiwiwomble guess alot will depend on what Fozzie sees as his best way to win the rwc...rookie debutant or safe experience.
Well you know - Foster with his track record of wild out of the blue, risk taking selections and all...
@Windows97 who knows, previous decisions may have been made with the intention of keeping his job, now that's gone he may throw caution in the wind and take a punt on someone...?
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Sevu Reece gooooooooooooooonnnnneeeeeeeee.
Not going to play again this year.
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Sevu Reece gooooooooooooooonnnnneeeeeeeee.
Not going to play again this year.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
Sevu Reece gooooooooooooooonnnnneeeeeeeee.
Not going to play again this year.
Stevenson or Telea? Or both since Jordan is still out.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
Sevu Reece gooooooooooooooonnnnneeeeeeeee.
Not going to play again this year.
Stevenson or Telea? Or both since Jordan is still out.
@Darren said in All Blacks 2023:
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
Sevu Reece gooooooooooooooonnnnneeeeeeeee.
Not going to play again this year.
Stevenson or Telea? Or both since Jordan is still out.
Stevenson is doing his chances no harm at the moment. He can play wing and FB as well
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
Sevu Reece gooooooooooooooonnnnneeeeeeeee.
Not going to play again this year.
Stevenson or Telea? Or both since Jordan is still out.
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If Jordie is the starting 12 there's more room for a fullback too (or a wing/fullback)
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@Duluth see thats where the pessimist in me is afraid that when fozzie sees that equation....he'll just move jordie back to 15 or god forbid the wing
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth see thats where the pessimist in me is afraid that when fozzie sees that equation....he'll just move jordie back to 15 or god forbid the wing
Nah I think ke knows the potential backlash. He'd only do it to piss off the country...oh, shit.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
@Duluth see thats where the pessimist in me is afraid that when fozzie sees that equation....he'll just move jordie back to 15 or god forbid the wing
Nah I think ke knows the potential backlash. He'd only do it to piss off the country...oh, shit.
@nostrildamus ...back lash?....like losing your job?
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@nostrildamus ...back lash?....like losing your job?
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2023:
@nostrildamus ...back lash?....like losing your job?
I guess that was my point. Anyway, it is not like we have a surfeit of quality 12s..
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where the fuck is Will Jordan? it's becoming a very long time since he played a game.
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where the fuck is Will Jordan? it's becoming a very long time since he played a game.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2023:
where the fuck is Will Jordan? it's becoming a very long time since he played a game.
Stevenson better keep up his current level
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where the fuck is Will Jordan? it's becoming a very long time since he played a game.
@mariner4life I think they said he'll return after the Crusaders' bye? He was training with the team during the warm-up for the Brumbies game.
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Pity about Sevu - he had that electric spark that could create a try out of literally nothing, I felt he was somewhat under-utilized by the AB's.
Still opens the door for Stevenson even more, he certainly has pace and the eye for a gap, but his solid defense and booming boot lends his game to suit the pressure cooker atmosphere for the RWC moreso than an out and out flyer.
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Pity about Sevu - he had that electric spark that could create a try out of literally nothing, I felt he was somewhat under-utilized by the AB's.
Still opens the door for Stevenson even more, he certainly has pace and the eye for a gap, but his solid defense and booming boot lends his game to suit the pressure cooker atmosphere for the RWC moreso than an out and out flyer.
I’d like them to give him plenty of games then, because it’s taken him years to be this good at Super level.
I’m not sure he will go to the next level as smoothly without being rocks and diamonds again (ABXV performances were very promising though).
