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Black Caps v England

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  • CyclopsC Cyclops

    @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

    Well done KW.

    Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.

    Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!

    If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.

    It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !

    It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.

    Also, 18 year career. Crazy.

    The Vettori style.

    "I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."

    There was an absurd innings in an ODI where we were getting thumped until he came in at 8 and scored 70 odd off 50 odd and we ended up losing by a few runs. He was the last one out, bowled around his legs by one pitching on off stump he'd walked so far across.

    I think the 'almost recovery' is an integral part of his legacy. We'd be out of it, only for him and another lower order bat to get us back in with a chance but then came up just short.

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    #427

    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v England:

    @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

    Well done KW.

    Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.

    Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!

    If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.

    It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !

    It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.

    Also, 18 year career. Crazy.

    The Vettori style.

    "I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."

    There was an absurd innings in an ODI where we were getting thumped until he came in at 8 and scored 70 odd off 50 odd and we ended up losing by a few runs. He was the last one out, bowled around his legs by one pitching on off stump he'd walked so far across.

    I think the 'almost recovery' is an integral part of his legacy. We'd be out of it, only for him and another lower order bat to get us back in with a chance but then came up just short.

    Anyway…..back to the present.

    Fucken on ya Kane you little beauty !!!!!!!!

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    • MN5M MN5

      @Cyclops said in Black Caps v England:

      @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:

      @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

      @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

      Well done KW.

      Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.

      Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!

      If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.

      It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !

      It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.

      Also, 18 year career. Crazy.

      The Vettori style.

      "I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."

      There was an absurd innings in an ODI where we were getting thumped until he came in at 8 and scored 70 odd off 50 odd and we ended up losing by a few runs. He was the last one out, bowled around his legs by one pitching on off stump he'd walked so far across.

      I think the 'almost recovery' is an integral part of his legacy. We'd be out of it, only for him and another lower order bat to get us back in with a chance but then came up just short.

      Anyway…..back to the present.

      Fucken on ya Kane you little beauty !!!!!!!!

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      #428

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

      @Cyclops said in Black Caps v England:

      @KiwiPie said in Black Caps v England:

      @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

      @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

      Well done KW.

      Will all due respect to Rossco who was a hell of a caretaker this record belongs to you alone.

      Next target 10,000 !!!!!!!

      If you were picking the best NZ cricket team of my lifetime most of the squad would come from the first 14 names on the highest run getters list - plus Bond and Boult - you could extend to 16 names to include Turner and give Macca a free trip somewhere!.

      It’s a bit of a sad indictment on our cricket that Vettori is ninth on that list !

      It wasn't televised, but his batting effort in the CWC Semi 2015 at EP was sensational. All the pressure, and he strolled out to the middle like it was a sunny afternoon at a park. Chatted to the Hairy Jav, then wound up slapping a few ugly runs and turning over the strike. The calming effect and confidence was massive for us.

      Also, 18 year career. Crazy.

      The Vettori style.

      "I don't care whether you bowl at me, down my legside or to the off - short, good length or full, it will end up going through third man."

      There was an absurd innings in an ODI where we were getting thumped until he came in at 8 and scored 70 odd off 50 odd and we ended up losing by a few runs. He was the last one out, bowled around his legs by one pitching on off stump he'd walked so far across.

      I think the 'almost recovery' is an integral part of his legacy. We'd be out of it, only for him and another lower order bat to get us back in with a chance but then came up just short.

      Anyway…..back to the present.

      Fucken on ya Kane you little beauty !!!!!!!!

      Love the understated celebration. Authentic ... classically kiwi.

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        Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s

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        • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

          Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s

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          MN5
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          @1kiwi said in Black Caps v England:

          Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s

          Really Harsh.

          He’s no Stephen Fleming…….

          That’s a pretty bloody decent conversion rate if you ask me. Up there with the very best. For comparison Tendulkar was 51/68, Ponting 41/62, Kallis 45/58, Dravid 36/63, Sangakkara 38/52, Lara 34/48……

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            Chris B.
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            #431

            Good work, boys.

            But, we still need another 150 runs minimum to have much chance IMO.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              Good work, boys.

              But, we still need another 150 runs minimum to have much chance IMO.

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              @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

              Good work, boys.

              But, we still need another 150 runs minimum to have much chance IMO.

              Hell no. Boult will go through them like a bad curry.

              Oh..... hang on

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              • MN5M MN5

                @1kiwi said in Black Caps v England:

                Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s

                Really Harsh.

                He’s no Stephen Fleming…….

                That’s a pretty bloody decent conversion rate if you ask me. Up there with the very best. For comparison Tendulkar was 51/68, Ponting 41/62, Kallis 45/58, Dravid 36/63, Sangakkara 38/52, Lara 34/48……

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                @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                @1kiwi said in Black Caps v England:

                Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s

                Really Harsh.

                He’s no Stephen Fleming…….

                That’s a pretty bloody decent conversion rate if you ask me. Up there with the very best. For comparison Tendulkar was 51/68, Ponting 41/62, Kallis 45/58, Dravid 36/63, Sangakkara 38/52, Lara 34/48……

                20+ centuries
                Kane 44%

                Over 50%
                Azharuddin
                Bradman
                Clarke
                Hayden
                Younis Khan

                Kohli 49%
                Sobers 46%
                Steve Smith 44.78%

                So, up there, but not with the very best.
                Good compared to some of the batsmen rated best ever though

                Marty Crowe had a better conversion rate but not over 20 centuries.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  Good work, boys.

                  But, we still need another 150 runs minimum to have much chance IMO.

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                  No Quarter
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                  @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

                  Good work, boys.

                  But, we still need another 150 runs minimum to have much chance IMO.

                  They have certainly made light work of recent chases against us!!

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

                    Good work, boys.

                    But, we still need another 150 runs minimum to have much chance IMO.

                    They have certainly made light work of recent chases against us!!

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                    #435

                    @No-Quarter Because we're one-down in the series, I think we've got to give them sniff and enough carrot to keep chasing.

                    I'm thinking 350 off 70 overs - which would be the same rate they scored at in the first innings.

                    If the pitch is a road they'll probably make them.

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                    • No QuarterN Online
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                      No Quarter
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                      Is that really conclusive enough to overturn the decision?

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                      • CrucialC Crucial

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                        @1kiwi said in Black Caps v England:

                        Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s

                        Really Harsh.

                        He’s no Stephen Fleming…….

                        That’s a pretty bloody decent conversion rate if you ask me. Up there with the very best. For comparison Tendulkar was 51/68, Ponting 41/62, Kallis 45/58, Dravid 36/63, Sangakkara 38/52, Lara 34/48……

                        20+ centuries
                        Kane 44%

                        Over 50%
                        Azharuddin
                        Bradman
                        Clarke
                        Hayden
                        Younis Khan

                        Kohli 49%
                        Sobers 46%
                        Steve Smith 44.78%

                        So, up there, but not with the very best.
                        Good compared to some of the batsmen rated best ever though

                        Marty Crowe had a better conversion rate but not over 20 centuries.

                        MN5M Online
                        MN5M Online
                        MN5
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                        #437

                        @Crucial said in Black Caps v England:

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                        @1kiwi said in Black Caps v England:

                        Another ton to add to his impressive record. 26 tons overall now. Has also made 33 test fifties. Imagine if he had coverted just a dozen of those into 100s

                        Really Harsh.

                        He’s no Stephen Fleming…….

                        That’s a pretty bloody decent conversion rate if you ask me. Up there with the very best. For comparison Tendulkar was 51/68, Ponting 41/62, Kallis 45/58, Dravid 36/63, Sangakkara 38/52, Lara 34/48……

                        20+ centuries
                        Kane 44%

                        Over 50%
                        Azharuddin
                        Bradman
                        Clarke
                        Hayden
                        Younis Khan

                        Kohli 49%
                        Sobers 46%
                        Steve Smith 44.78%

                        So, up there, but not with the very best.
                        Good compared to some of the batsmen rated best ever though

                        Marty Crowe had a better conversion rate but not over 20 centuries.

                        Yeah not an exact yardstick.

                        Flemings conversion rate was notably appalling but he still got quite a number of crucial 60/70/80 odd scores in his time.

                        With one obvious and massive exception KW is as good or better than anyone on that 50% list though.

                        Back to the action and he’s gone but he’s done his job and got us in there. Still a massive onus on Blundell and whoever can support him to get the last day total as tricky as possible for England to chase.

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                          that is the worst way to give your wicket away. Just appalling.

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                            That is an absolute shocker Bracewell. One of the worst I’ve seen, just give your wicket away.

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                              What happened to Bracewell ?

                              From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                What happened to Bracewell ?

                                From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

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                                @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                                What happened to Bracewell ?

                                From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

                                ran over teh crease for an easy single, didn't ground his bat or his foot and got run out. Insane.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                                  What happened to Bracewell ?

                                  From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

                                  ran over teh crease for an easy single, didn't ground his bat or his foot and got run out. Insane.

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                                  @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                                  What happened to Bracewell ?

                                  From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

                                  ran over teh crease for an easy single, didn't ground his bat or his foot and got run out. Insane.

                                  So had a chance to prove us all wrong and fucked it ?

                                  Jeepers I hope Wags can support Blundell for a well deserved ton at the very least ( preferably more )

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                                  • nzzpN nzzp

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                                    What happened to Bracewell ?

                                    From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

                                    ran over teh crease for an easy single, didn't ground his bat or his foot and got run out. Insane.

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                                    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                                    What happened to Bracewell ?

                                    From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

                                    ran over teh crease for an easy single, didn't ground his bat or his foot and got run out. Insane.

                                    Fucken useless. Can't bat can't bowl

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                                      #444

                                      Well, that's been a complete waste of about six 8-ish? hours work.

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                                        What happened to Bracewell ?

                                        From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

                                        ran over teh crease for an easy single, didn't ground his bat or his foot and got run out. Insane.

                                        Fucken useless. Can't bat can't bowl

                                        MN5M Online
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                                        MN5
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                                        @canefan said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

                                        What happened to Bracewell ?

                                        From your descriptions it sounds like it’s giving his detractors ( of which I am one ) some ammo

                                        ran over teh crease for an easy single, didn't ground his bat or his foot and got run out. Insane.

                                        Fucken useless. Can't bat can't bowl

                                        Well no, in classic New Zealand tradition he’s sort of ok enough at both to supposedly warrant selection. These types can sometimes have their place in the shorter forms but there’s no room for them in the test team.

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                                          M. Bracewell can join us at the under 10's training this week. Running between the wickets has been a work on for them, but even they don't run that poorly.

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