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Black Caps v England

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    Finally some luck! Wow, game on. Going to take a special innings from someone to get England home here. 180ish to get, 5 wickets in hand,

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      Holy shit ! New guy got run out without facing a ball.

      Won’t affect his strike rate but that’s fucked his Bradman average.

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        Brook runout without facing a ball, how good! 🙂

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        • CatograndeC Catogrande

          Hmmm. Getting nervy from an England point of view.

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          @Catogrande said in Black Caps v England:

          Hmmm. Getting nervy from an England point of view.

          And that was said at 3 down.

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          • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

            @MN5 said in Black Caps v England:

            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

            @KiwiMurph said in Black Caps v England:

            I see Ravindra scored a 100 not out today.

            Chuck him in for Bracewell surely.

            Very tempting.

            With the current balance of the side, if the spinner is batting 8 I'd very happily pick Ish Sodhi. Will be great if Ravindra can get into some consistent top form as well.

            He’s played 18 tests in ten years. He’s a stop gap at best.

            Outside of John Bracewell and Dan Vettori, lock-in spin options don't easily leap to mind in Black Caps history (and even then Stephen Boock was on the scene for Braces).

            Ish's biggest issue is his consistency (and occasionally fielding), but he could still be good for a few years yet. His batting seems to have kicked on.

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            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

            Ish's biggest issue is his consistency (and occasionally fielding), but he could still be good for a few years yet. His batting seems to have kicked on.

            I was looking at Ish's test batting average earlier. 22.78 with 4 x 50. In comparison, Bracewell has a test average of 20.36.

            Anyway back to your regular channel...

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              It's the hope that kills you...

              BELIEVE

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              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                It's the hope that kills you...

                BELIEVE

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                @dogmeat said in Black Caps v England:

                It's the hope that kills you...

                Literally just texted that to the Poms who’ve been (rightly) giving me stick!

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                  Lord Gower doing a nice comparison of Bracewell's terrible running yesterday, followed by him running out Bradman Brook this morning for 0 (0). Joys of cricket.

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                    Stokes feels like the key now. He can take the game away from us in an hour if he gets going and has a real talismanic quality.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                      Ish's biggest issue is his consistency (and occasionally fielding), but he could still be good for a few years yet. His batting seems to have kicked on.

                      I was looking at Ish's test batting average earlier. 22.78 with 4 x 50. In comparison, Bracewell has a test average of 20.36.

                      Anyway back to your regular channel...

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                      @Bovidae said in Black Caps v England:

                      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                      Ish's biggest issue is his consistency (and occasionally fielding), but he could still be good for a few years yet. His batting seems to have kicked on.

                      I was looking at Ish's test batting average earlier. 22.78 with 4 x 50. In comparison, Bracewell has a test average of 20.36.

                      Anyway back to your regular channel...

                      A caveat to that , though. I'm really quite unimpressed with Ish's batting in bouncy or NZ conditions. Including watching him at FC level. But ever since his debut back in Bangladesh about a decade ago, I've been quite impressed with his batting (more accurately, his scoring options) v spin in Asia.

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                        Bracewell runs out Brook for zero. Oh the irony

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                          Bracewell taken out of the attack. I don't love it - if he doesn't come back from the other end, I think it's a weak move. There is turn and bounce; you have to attack.

                          I thought Southee would be more aggressive ...

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                            Need to get through this partnership. Anyone got any good reserves jinxes or more bad takes to help the Craps out?

                            Think we've used up the biggest table turner in the much-berated Bracewell running out their star batter without facing a ball, but there must be other options for us to try.

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                              Bracewell taken out of the attack. I don't love it - if he doesn't come back from the other end, I think it's a weak move. There is turn and bounce; you have to attack.

                              I thought Southee would be more aggressive ...

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                              @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                              Bracewell taken out of the attack. I don't love it - if he doesn't come back from the other end, I think it's a weak move. There is turn and bounce; you have to attack.

                              I thought Southee would be more aggressive ...

                              Too many 17 run overs and we are out of the game

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                                Dammit Stokes is a jammy fluffybunny

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                  Bracewell taken out of the attack. I don't love it - if he doesn't come back from the other end, I think it's a weak move. There is turn and bounce; you have to attack.

                                  I thought Southee would be more aggressive ...

                                  Too many 17 run overs and we are out of the game

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                                  @canefan said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                  Bracewell taken out of the attack. I don't love it - if he doesn't come back from the other end, I think it's a weak move. There is turn and bounce; you have to attack.

                                  I thought Southee would be more aggressive ...

                                  Too many 17 run overs and we are out of the game

                                  I know that - but the ball is turning and bouncing. Surely a second over is worth a crack ... if they are agrressive, it creates chances.

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                                  • canefanC canefan

                                    Dammit Stokes is a jammy fluffybunny

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                                    @canefan said in Black Caps v England:

                                    Dammit Stokes is a jammy fluffybunny

                                    Stokes owes us about a million easy caught behinds.

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                                      England's last 3 average 40 between them - hopefully they're no better than that today given their age.

                                      Not sure whether I'd rather now get Root (their best bat) or Stokes (their talisman).

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        England's last 3 average 40 between them - hopefully they're no better than that today given their age.

                                        Not sure whether I'd rather now get Root (their best bat) or Stokes (their talisman).

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                                        nzzp
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                                        @Chris-B Root. All day.

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @canefan said in Black Caps v England:

                                          @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                          Bracewell taken out of the attack. I don't love it - if he doesn't come back from the other end, I think it's a weak move. There is turn and bounce; you have to attack.

                                          I thought Southee would be more aggressive ...

                                          Too many 17 run overs and we are out of the game

                                          I know that - but the ball is turning and bouncing. Surely a second over is worth a crack ... if they are agrressive, it creates chances.

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                                          @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                          @canefan said in Black Caps v England:

                                          @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                          Bracewell taken out of the attack. I don't love it - if he doesn't come back from the other end, I think it's a weak move. There is turn and bounce; you have to attack.

                                          I thought Southee would be more aggressive ...

                                          Too many 17 run overs and we are out of the game

                                          I know that - but the ball is turning and bouncing. Surely a second over is worth a crack ... if they are agrressive, it creates chances.

                                          Break the partnership and bring him back

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