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Black Caps v England

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    209/5!

    Long tail right? Which means 400+ ...

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      @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

      Just got home from morning coaching session
      Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

      It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

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      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

      @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

      Just got home from morning coaching session
      Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

      It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

      But at least he now has a first Test wicket of Ben Stokes to further aggravate the Twitterati.

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      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

        Just got home from morning coaching session
        Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

        It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

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        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

        Just got home from morning coaching session
        Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

        It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

        I would have blooded a youngster.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

          @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

          Just got home from morning coaching session
          Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

          It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

          I would have blooded a youngster.

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          @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

          @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

          Just got home from morning coaching session
          Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

          It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

          I would have blooded a youngster.

          pfft. In Stead we trust

          /sarc

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            Their number 8 averages under 11 from what I can see.

            And 42 against us... 😛

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

              Just got home from morning coaching session
              Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

              It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

              I would have blooded a youngster.

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              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

              @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

              Just got home from morning coaching session
              Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

              It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

              I would have blooded a youngster.

              Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                Just got home from morning coaching session
                Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                I would have blooded a youngster.

                Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

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                @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                Just got home from morning coaching session
                Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                I would have blooded a youngster.

                Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

                Boult? 😄

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                  Just got home from morning coaching session
                  Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                  It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                  I would have blooded a youngster.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                    Just got home from morning coaching session
                    Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                    It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                    I would have blooded a youngster.

                    Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

                    Boult? 😄

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                    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                    Just got home from morning coaching session
                    Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                    It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                    I would have blooded a youngster.

                    Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

                    Boult? 😄

                    I mentioned him already 😄 Not a youngster, but he could have been called up as late as 1.55pm...

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                        Just got home from morning coaching session
                        Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                        It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                        I would have blooded a youngster.

                        Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

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                        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                        Just got home from morning coaching session
                        Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                        It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                        I would have blooded a youngster.

                        Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

                        Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
                        Maybe my thinking of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
                        I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

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                          @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                          @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                          @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                          Just got home from morning coaching session
                          Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                          It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                          I would have blooded a youngster.

                          Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
                          Maybe my think of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
                          I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                          Yep, it's a bit like the batting. Henry Nicholls goes rarely questioned and overrated because the replacement options get very thin on the ground after Will Young. We need to import more South Africans...

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                            Brook is class.

                            Dominating a poor attack here - interesting to see how he fares against world class bowling in The Ashes.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                              @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                              Just got home from morning coaching session
                              Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                              It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                              I would have blooded a youngster.

                              Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside 🙂 )... others?

                              Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
                              Maybe my thinking of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
                              I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

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                              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                              I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                              Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

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                                @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                                Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

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                                @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                                Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                                It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

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                                  @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                  I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                                  Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                                  It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

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                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                  I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                                  Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                                  It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

                                  they have for some time.

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                                    Brook playing some superb shots out there right now. If Williamson was taller, we may have ahd two more wickets.

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                                      A pretty good ODI score on the cards here

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                        I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                                        Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                                        It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

                                        they have for some time.

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                                        @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                                        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                        I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                                        Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                                        It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

                                        they have for some time.

                                        It's really patchy. Overall it doesn't feel very systematic to me, despite some of the facilities now appearing at the back of Bay Oval and Hagley Oval.

                                        There are some good pockets and a few bright lights from the limited parts I get to see, but lots to work on - both mens and womens. Womens cricket in the Western Bay is all but non-existent if they get to the age of 18 and haven't already made the wider ND environment... which seems to show in both in the Brave and in the White Ferns this week...

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                                          Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

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