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  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    Just got home from morning coaching session
    Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

    It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

    I would have blooded a youngster.

    Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

    Just got home from morning coaching session
    Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

    It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

    I would have blooded a youngster.

    Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

    Boult? ๐Ÿ˜„

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

      @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

      Just got home from morning coaching session
      Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

      It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

      I would have blooded a youngster.

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

        Just got home from morning coaching session
        Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

        It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

        I would have blooded a youngster.

        Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

        Boult? ๐Ÿ˜„

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        Donsteppa
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        @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

        @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

        Just got home from morning coaching session
        Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

        It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

        I would have blooded a youngster.

        Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

        Boult? ๐Ÿ˜„

        I mentioned him already ๐Ÿ˜„ Not a youngster, but he could have been called up as late as 1.55pm...

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          • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

            Just got home from morning coaching session
            Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

            It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

            I would have blooded a youngster.

            Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

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            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

            @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

            Just got home from morning coaching session
            Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

            It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

            I would have blooded a youngster.

            Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

            Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
            Maybe my thinking of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
            I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

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              Donsteppa
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              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

              @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

              @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

              Just got home from morning coaching session
              Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

              It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

              I would have blooded a youngster.

              Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
              Maybe my think of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
              I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

              Yep, it's a bit like the batting. Henry Nicholls goes rarely questioned and overrated because the replacement options get very thin on the ground after Will Young. We need to import more South Africans...

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                Brook is class.

                Dominating a poor attack here - interesting to see how he fares against world class bowling in The Ashes.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                  Just got home from morning coaching session
                  Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                  It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                  I would have blooded a youngster.

                  Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

                  Good question, There must be someone worth trying, If the answer is no NZ cricket is in major trouble going forward.
                  Maybe my thinking of blooding a youngster is because I see so many options in the Australian system.
                  I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

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                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                  I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                  Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                    Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

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                    @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                    @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                    I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                    Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                    It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                      @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                      I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                      Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                      It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

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                      @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                      @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                      @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                      I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                      Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                      It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

                      they have for some time.

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                        Brook playing some superb shots out there right now. If Williamson was taller, we may have ahd two more wickets.

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                          A pretty good ODI score on the cards here

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                            @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                            I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                            Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                            It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

                            they have for some time.

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                            Donsteppa
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                            @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                            @nzzp said in Black Caps v England:

                            @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                            I worry for NZ cricket going forward .

                            Yes. We won the WTC against the odds - but we are a long way from set up for long term success.

                            It seems the development pathways and high performance programs need a decent over haul.

                            they have for some time.

                            It's really patchy. Overall it doesn't feel very systematic to me, despite some of the facilities now appearing at the back of Bay Oval and Hagley Oval.

                            There are some good pockets and a few bright lights from the limited parts I get to see, but lots to work on - both mens and womens. Womens cricket in the Western Bay is all but non-existent if they get to the age of 18 and haven't already made the wider ND environment... which seems to show in both in the Brave and in the White Ferns this week...

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                              Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

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                              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

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                                @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                                Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

                                to be fair he didn't get to bowl a lot in the last couple of years due to selections..but looking ordinary today

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                                • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                  Just got home from morning coaching session
                                  Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                                  It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                                  I would have blooded a youngster.

                                  Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

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                                  LABCAT
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                                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                                  @Chris said in Black Caps v England:

                                  Just got home from morning coaching session
                                  Catching up, A worry to see Scott Kuggeljin playing a test he is not up to test cricket,it would have been better to blood a youngster for the experience, probably would not lose a lot short term but gain long term.

                                  It's a lose lose selection all round. Ordinarily the Outraged of Twitter are best ignored, but slightly conflicted feelings in this case, as they're being aggravated for a journeyman with no recent first class form to speak of. Maybe best to have gone with Duffy... or... arguably a bloke sitting 500m away watching via his WiFi.

                                  I would have blooded a youngster.

                                  Genuine question of - which one? I have no other names leaping to mind (maybe there should be). Doug Bracewell would have been ideal (gnashing of teeth from @MN5 aside ๐Ÿ™‚ )... others?

                                  I would have picked:
                                  https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/zakary-foulkes-1202098

                                  First class record doesn't look much yet but watching him play he looks like he has the skills to be the next Souther/Boult

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                                    must be hard to keep the over rate up when you spend your whole day picking the ball up from teh rope

                                    how they fuck have they still got 41 overs to bowl?

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                                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                      Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

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                                      @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                                      Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

                                      Wags says, 16 overs 3-82, have some fucking patience!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v England:

                                        Wags 11 overs, 1-70, no maidens and five no balls. He hasn't quite been the We Loves Wags bowler that TSF remembers fondly for a year or two now... the joys of Father Time.

                                        Wags says, 16 overs 3-82, have some fucking patience!!! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        @Chris-B said in Black Caps v England:

                                        Wags says, 16 overs 3-82, have some fucking patience!!!

                                        4/82

                                        Edit: have some patience?

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                                          So actually feels we are about even unless we have a bad evening tonight. Obviously England have guaranteed there will be a result as long as there is enough good weather.

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