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Blackcaps v Sri Lanka

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  • CyclopsC Cyclops

    Honestly I don't know if I want Nicholls to convert the start into a big ton and save his spot or get out so we can drop him and move on.

    He's struggled a lot lately and strikes me as a guy who probably is just shy of being a reliable test bat, but goes through phases where he's a genuine test bat and then phases where he's not.

    His on phases are better than anyone outside the squad but maybe there's someone who can develop and give us more consistency.

    He reminds of the bad old days when a guy with his record would have been one of the first batmen picked and we'd be trying to convince ourselves that he was a genuine test batsmen with arguments like 'but look at the other guys he has to bat with' and 'remember that century a couple of years ago against x, he looked so good'

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    @Cyclops said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

    Honestly I don't know if I want Nicholls to convert the start into a big ton and save his spot or get out so we can drop him and move on.

    He's struggled a lot lately and strikes me as a guy who probably is just shy of being a reliable test bat, but goes through phases where he's a genuine test bat and then phases where he's not.

    His on phases are better than anyone outside the squad but maybe there's someone who can develop and give us more consistency.

    He reminds of the bad old days when a guy with his record would have been one of the first batmen picked and we'd be trying to convince ourselves that he was a genuine test batsmen with arguments like 'but look at the other guys he has to bat with' and 'remember that century a couple of years ago against x, he looked so good'

    Yeah Nicholls as it stands has a McMillan/Styris/Astle record.

    But I’d argue ( for right or wrong ) we expect more nowadays

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      Fiddy for Hank

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Cyclops said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

        Honestly I don't know if I want Nicholls to convert the start into a big ton and save his spot or get out so we can drop him and move on.

        He's struggled a lot lately and strikes me as a guy who probably is just shy of being a reliable test bat, but goes through phases where he's a genuine test bat and then phases where he's not.

        His on phases are better than anyone outside the squad but maybe there's someone who can develop and give us more consistency.

        He reminds of the bad old days when a guy with his record would have been one of the first batmen picked and we'd be trying to convince ourselves that he was a genuine test batsmen with arguments like 'but look at the other guys he has to bat with' and 'remember that century a couple of years ago against x, he looked so good'

        Yeah Nicholls as it stands has a McMillan/Styris/Astle record.

        But I’d argue ( for right or wrong ) we expect more nowadays

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        @MN5 said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

        @Cyclops said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

        Honestly I don't know if I want Nicholls to convert the start into a big ton and save his spot or get out so we can drop him and move on.

        He's struggled a lot lately and strikes me as a guy who probably is just shy of being a reliable test bat, but goes through phases where he's a genuine test bat and then phases where he's not.

        His on phases are better than anyone outside the squad but maybe there's someone who can develop and give us more consistency.

        He reminds of the bad old days when a guy with his record would have been one of the first batmen picked and we'd be trying to convince ourselves that he was a genuine test batsmen with arguments like 'but look at the other guys he has to bat with' and 'remember that century a couple of years ago against x, he looked so good'

        Yeah Nicholls as it stands has a McMillan/Styris/Astle record.

        But I’d argue ( for right or wrong ) we expect more nowadays

        We should expect more. And based on the Mitch Jr experience the coaching/ selection group don't know where those better players will come from

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          8004 runs to Kane

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            Aaaand... hundy for Kane

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              149 runs and no wickets lost in the first session (34 overs). Pretty handy.

              Will be a tricky start to the second session though. The second new ball is only a couple of overs old and there was a bit of life shown in those two overs, so the Sri Lankan's will be looking forward to coming out fresh and trying to get stuck in.

              Could be a bit of a session of two halves with the Sri Lankan's doing a bit of damage early with the new ball and then us slowly getting back on top as the ball loses its shine.

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                KW is not only our best ever batsman, he's now seriously in the conversation for our best player ever

                And I never thought there would ever be a conversation

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                  Run rate slowly climbing up now, starting to get close to 4. So much for my prediction of a difficult start to the session.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    KW is not only our best ever batsman, he's now seriously in the conversation for our best player ever

                    And I never thought there would ever be a conversation

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                    @mariner4life said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                    KW is not only our best ever batsman, he's now seriously in the conversation for our best player ever

                    And I never thought there would ever be a conversation

                    A couple of seasons ago Kane scored 90 odd against Sri Lanka off 90 odd deliveries. Normally when you see that kind of strike rate you think about aggression and risks and hitting over the top. But it wasn't. It was zero risk, control, placement and precision. When he got out, there was a few seconds of silence as everyone (opposition, commentators, crowd) was shocked because he'd just looked so unstoppable. It's probably the best innings I've watched in full myself by any batsman.

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                    • CyclopsC Cyclops

                      @mariner4life said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                      KW is not only our best ever batsman, he's now seriously in the conversation for our best player ever

                      And I never thought there would ever be a conversation

                      A couple of seasons ago Kane scored 90 odd against Sri Lanka off 90 odd deliveries. Normally when you see that kind of strike rate you think about aggression and risks and hitting over the top. But it wasn't. It was zero risk, control, placement and precision. When he got out, there was a few seconds of silence as everyone (opposition, commentators, crowd) was shocked because he'd just looked so unstoppable. It's probably the best innings I've watched in full myself by any batsman.

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                      @Cyclops Nicholls, though, dropped twice on the way to his century. But he got there!

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                        I'd rate this as an 8 match innings for Nicholls. He's safe for another 8 tests.

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @Cyclops Nicholls, though, dropped twice on the way to his century. But he got there!

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                          @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                          dropped

                          Hey, works for Buschange and we'd have him in a heart beat

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                            Partnership 15th on all time 3rd wicket ranking.

                            But still some distance to get to the best for NZ v SL ...

                            https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/283597.html

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                              All of Kane's 200s scored in NZ

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                                Partnership 6th on NZ all time list, and gunning for higher.

                                https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/fow/highest_partnerships_for_any_wicket.html?class=1;id=5;type=team

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                                  @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                  dropped

                                  Hey, works for Buschange and we'd have him in a heart beat

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                                  @booboo said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                  @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                  dropped

                                  Hey, works for Buschange and we'd have him in a heart beat

                                  Yeah cos Nicholls and Marnus are in the same class......

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                                    @booboo said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                    dropped

                                    Hey, works for Buschange and we'd have him in a heart beat

                                    Yeah cos Nicholls and Marnus are in the same class......

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                                    @KiwiMurph said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                    @booboo said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                    @nzzp said in Blackcaps v Sri Lanka:

                                    dropped

                                    Hey, works for Buschange and we'd have him in a heart beat

                                    Yeah cos Nicholls and Marnus are in the same class......

                                    Would they be if they didn't survive the dropped chances?

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                                      Partnership now top 30 all time all wickets.

                                      https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/fow/highest_partnerships_for_any_wicket.html?class=1;id=5;type=team

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                                        Aaand that's it for Kane

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                                          Mitch comes and goes for an entertaining 18.

                                          Henry and Blundell obviously batting for an imminent declaration.

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