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It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.

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  • WingerW Winger

    Did NZR balls up this announcement? It's a big event so leave it a few days. To get more media attention

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    @Winger i honestly dont think non rugby people care that much and the news is such a non event if they tried to talk it up too much people might be...."what?...thats it?"

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      Well, I am happy. NZ needs an innovator at this period of time (definitely not a caretaker). However, big learning curve for Razor though. It won't be easy! I am hoping a Schmitt or Cotter or someone similar will have a position in the new team.

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        is the bigger question now how takes over the Crusaders...hammet?

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        • KirwanK Kirwan

          @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          This place will be fun if we get a repeat of the Cantablacks of the Mitchell/Deans era. There might be some TSF favourites on the outer.

          I'm not going to be surprised if that's exactly what happens. Here come third pick journeymen Crusaders.

          Lets see if he proves me wrong.

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          @Kirwan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

          @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

          This place will be fun if we get a repeat of the Cantablacks of the Mitchell/Deans era. There might be some TSF favourites on the outer.

          I'm not going to be surprised if that's exactly what happens.

          I really don't see that, Razor has about as different as a coaching philosophy from Deans as you can get.

          Robbie had a gameplan & built the team around that, he never wavered from that & it hurt Australia big time.

          Razor is quite the opposite, he looks at what he has available & builds a gameplan around accentuating their strengths. I think he's a much better coach.

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          • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

            is the bigger question now how takes over the Crusaders...hammet?

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            @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

            is the bigger question now how takes over the Crusaders...hammet?

            Good question. Hard act to follow even if they don't win this year

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            • WingerW Winger

              @Kiwiwomble said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

              is the bigger question now how takes over the Crusaders...hammet?

              Good question. Hard act to follow even if they don't win this year

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              @Winger I think that Goodman has always been part of the succession plan.

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              • kiwi_expatK kiwi_expat

                @Kirwan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                This place will be fun if we get a repeat of the Cantablacks of the Mitchell/Deans era. There might be some TSF favourites on the outer.

                I'm not going to be surprised if that's exactly what happens.

                I really don't see that, Razor has about as different as a coaching philosophy from Deans as you can get.

                Robbie had a gameplan & built the team around that, he never wavered from that & it hurt Australia big time.

                Razor is quite the opposite, he looks at what he has available & builds a gameplan around accentuating their strengths. I think he's a much better coach.

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                @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                @Kirwan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                This place will be fun if we get a repeat of the Cantablacks of the Mitchell/Deans era. There might be some TSF favourites on the outer.

                I'm not going to be surprised if that's exactly what happens.

                I really don't see that, Razor has about as different as a coaching philosophy from Deans as you can get.

                Robbie had a gameplan & built the team around that, he never wavered from that and it cost him with Aus.

                Razor is quite the opposite, he looks at what he has available & builds a gameplan around accentuating their strengths.

                The question is whether he sees what is available outside of Canterbury. We won't know until he selects his first squad, but it's the sort of mistake an inexperienced coach would make.

                We've seen it slightly with Foster, Cane as captain. Sowakula's bizarre selection.

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                  I reckon backs coach will be Brown, Razor wanted him last time (as did Foster I think), but he said he wanted to finish job with Jamie at Japan, that's now finished. You read it here first!

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                  • KirwanK Kirwan

                    @kiwi_expat said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    @Kirwan said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                    @Bovidae said in Foster, Robertson etc:

                    This place will be fun if we get a repeat of the Cantablacks of the Mitchell/Deans era. There might be some TSF favourites on the outer.

                    I'm not going to be surprised if that's exactly what happens.

                    I really don't see that, Razor has about as different as a coaching philosophy from Deans as you can get.

                    Robbie had a gameplan & built the team around that, he never wavered from that and it cost him with Aus.

                    Razor is quite the opposite, he looks at what he has available & builds a gameplan around accentuating their strengths.

                    The question is whether he sees what is available outside of Canterbury. We won't know until he selects his first squad, but it's the sort of mistake an inexperienced coach would make.

                    We've seen it slightly with Foster, Cane as captain. Sowakula's bizarre selection.

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                    taniwharugby
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                    @Kirwan given preparation seems to be a big part of his successes to date, he has alot of months to get himself prepared for his first naming in what, May 2024?

                    Geez, that is a long time to wait now...

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Kirwan given preparation seems to be a big part of his successes to date, he has alot of months to get himself prepared for his first naming in what, May 2024?

                      Geez, that is a long time to wait now...

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                      @taniwharugby said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                      @Kirwan given preparation seems to be a big part of his successes to date, he has alot of months to get himself prepared for his first naming in what, May 2024?

                      Geez, that is a long time to wait now...

                      It's weird having two All Black coaches. Modern times I guess.

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                        Kirwan
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                        I wonder if he's going to the World Cup as an observer? Would be vital as a learning experience wouldn't it? Or just disruptive?

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          I wonder if he's going to the World Cup as an observer? Would be vital as a learning experience wouldn't it? Or just disruptive?

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @Kirwan surely he'll be there as a private citizen (some sponsor will host him), too much to scope out with oppositions as well as our own team

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            I reckon backs coach will be Brown, Razor wanted him last time (as did Foster I think), but he said he wanted to finish job with Jamie at Japan, that's now finished. You read it here first!

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                            @Dan54 Hope that little nugget comes true.

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                              Shit, we should have listened to that George fella. He was right all along.

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                is the bigger question now how takes over the Crusaders...hammet?

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                                @Kiwiwomble If he isn’t an assistant under Razor, MacDonald is only signed with the Blues until the end of the Super Rugby season🤔

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                                • StagS Stag

                                  @Kiwiwomble If he isn’t an assistant under Razor, MacDonald is only signed with the Blues until the end of the Super Rugby season🤔

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                                  Kiwiwomble
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                                  @Stag shut it! they dont need any good ideas

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @KiwiMurph said in It’s Razor. Robertson New All Blacks coach.:

                                    Razor looks relieved. Fair enough too.

                                    Good news for Razor is he will have huge public backing in the role when he starts.

                                    that will last right up until he loses, or god forbid, picks players the public wouldn't

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                                    @mariner4life so nothing really changes for the public then…. 😉

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                                      Stoked for ScoRo. Glad he is getting the role next year and wasn't shoehorned into a team that wasn't his when Fozzie was going to get cut.

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                                        I hope they have the funds to buy O'Gara out of his contract, would like a bit of NH intelligence built in also.

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                                          Apparently the board was unanimous in supporting him over Joseph.
                                          Pretty comprehensive show of support.

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