Super Rugby 2024
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Is anyone going to turn up to watch the Hurricanes and Blues thrash the Rebels and Drua this weekend? What are crowd numbers required to turn profits?
going back 5 or so years, when the Blues played at Okara, the costs NRU had to pay to host saw 10k as the break-even figure, however I believe that has changed slightly as the Blues also used to charge a fee to host the games, unsure if this is still the case.
So you'd think at larger venues, the cost would increase considerably?
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the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours
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the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:
the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours
This is happening more.
For the most part the Cake Tin crowd are opposite the main camera.
I've noticed this season Eden Park have closed most of the old eastern terraces which makes the north stand and corner stand look fuller.
It works well.
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Stuff's NZ SR team of the season. Dominated by Hurricanes although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named. Also, for those who criticise Stevenson's defence from fullback, Love only has a 69% tackle success rate himself. More detail in the article below.
https://www.thepress.co.nz/sport/350299605/super-rugby-team-season-hurricanes-take-charge
15 Ruben Love (Hurricanes)
14 Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
13 Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
12 Bryce Heem (Blues)
11 Caleb Clarke (Blues)
10 Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)
9 TJ Perenara (Hurricanes)
8 Hoskins Sotutu (Blues)
7 Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
6 Cullen Grace (Crusaders)
5 Fabian Holland (Highlanders)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (Blues)
3 Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
2 Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes)
1 Xavier Numia (Hurricanes) -
hard to disagree from what i watched and the chat on here
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@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:
the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours
This is happening more.
For the most part the Cake Tin crowd are opposite the main camera.
I've noticed this season Eden Park have closed most of the old eastern terraces which makes the north stand and corner stand look fuller.
It works well.
@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:
the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours
This is happening more.
For the most part the Cake Tin crowd are opposite the main camera.
I've noticed this season Eden Park have closed most of the old eastern terraces which makes the north stand and corner stand look fuller.
It works well.
Eden park obvious has too do it more being so big to start with, dont feel Forsyth barr does is much as i often think the crowd is disappointing and then you get a reverse angle and north stand is quite full
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Stuff's NZ SR team of the season. Dominated by Hurricanes although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named. Also, for those who criticise Stevenson's defence from fullback, Love only has a 69% tackle success rate himself. More detail in the article below.
https://www.thepress.co.nz/sport/350299605/super-rugby-team-season-hurricanes-take-charge
15 Ruben Love (Hurricanes)
14 Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
13 Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
12 Bryce Heem (Blues)
11 Caleb Clarke (Blues)
10 Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)
9 TJ Perenara (Hurricanes)
8 Hoskins Sotutu (Blues)
7 Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
6 Cullen Grace (Crusaders)
5 Fabian Holland (Highlanders)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (Blues)
3 Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
2 Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes)
1 Xavier Numia (Hurricanes)@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
Stuff's NZ SR team of the season. Dominated by Hurricanes although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named. Also, for those who criticise Stevenson's defence from fullback, Love only has a 69% tackle success rate himself. More detail in the article below.
https://www.thepress.co.nz/sport/350299605/super-rugby-team-season-hurricanes-take-charge
15 Ruben Love (Hurricanes)
14 Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
13 Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
12 Bryce Heem (Blues)
11 Caleb Clarke (Blues)
10 Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)
9 TJ Perenara (Hurricanes)
8 Hoskins Sotutu (Blues)
7 Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
6 Cullen Grace (Crusaders)
5 Fabian Holland (Highlanders)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (Blues)
3 Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
2 Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes)
1 Xavier Numia (Hurricanes)That side seems pretty spot on for me apart from maybe Grace. Probably the first time in history we've had the form front row in the comp. Could be the reason we go all the way this year as long as Lomax gets back on the park.
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Stuff's NZ SR team of the season. Dominated by Hurricanes although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named. Also, for those who criticise Stevenson's defence from fullback, Love only has a 69% tackle success rate himself. More detail in the article below.
https://www.thepress.co.nz/sport/350299605/super-rugby-team-season-hurricanes-take-charge
15 Ruben Love (Hurricanes)
14 Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
13 Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
12 Bryce Heem (Blues)
11 Caleb Clarke (Blues)
10 Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)
9 TJ Perenara (Hurricanes)
8 Hoskins Sotutu (Blues)
7 Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
6 Cullen Grace (Crusaders)
5 Fabian Holland (Highlanders)
4 Patrick Tuipulotu (Blues)
3 Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
2 Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes)
1 Xavier Numia (Hurricanes)@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
I'm guessing Cully felt he needed to include at least one from each franchise and there's been no standout at 6 (Finau slightly inconsistent, Ioane missed a lot of matches etc.. but they had far better seasons than Grace)
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
I'm guessing Cully felt he needed to include at least one from each franchise and there's been no standout at 6 (Finau slightly inconsistent, Ioane missed a lot of matches etc.. but they had far better seasons than Grace)
@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
I'm guessing Cully felt he needed to include at least one from each franchise and there's been no standout at 6 (Finau slightly inconsistent, Ioane missed a lot of matches etc.. but they had far better seasons than Grace)
Flanders has also been pretty impressive for the Canes, almost to the point he's pushing Shields out of his spot.
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
I'm guessing Cully felt he needed to include at least one from each franchise and there's been no standout at 6 (Finau slightly inconsistent, Ioane missed a lot of matches etc.. but they had far better seasons than Grace)
@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.
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@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.
I know that some people on here have been able to get their hands on stats harder to access, I'd be fascinated to see them for 6s.
If Grace gets named at 6, I'll fucking laugh my tits off. He's got talent but has been terrible / good / terrible / good. We don't need a pasty white Frizell.
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@Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named
It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.
They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.
@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed
Number 4 on tackles missed. Behind only Tom Horton, Tamati Tua & Chase Tiatia
Number one on the worst defensive game by a single player with 8 misses in a match
The last 1/3 of the season I would say his defence has been fine. That first 2/3 was abysmal. He was a big factor in the early Crusaders losses
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@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:
the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours
This is happening more.
For the most part the Cake Tin crowd are opposite the main camera.
I've noticed this season Eden Park have closed most of the old eastern terraces which makes the north stand and corner stand look fuller.
It works well.
@KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:
the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours
This is happening more.
For the most part the Cake Tin crowd are opposite the main camera.
I've noticed this season Eden Park have closed most of the old eastern terraces which makes the north stand and corner stand look fuller.
It works well.
The mask slips when it's time for a kick at goal
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed
Number 4 on tackles missed. Behind only Tom Horton, Tamati Tua & Chase Tiatia
Number one on the worst defensive game by a single player with 8 misses in a match
The last 1/3 of the season I would say his defence has been fine. That first 2/3 was abysmal. He was a big factor in the early Crusaders losses
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@Duluth The number of tackles is an indication of workrate but for an international 6 I'd be wanting to see dominant tackles. Are those stats available?
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@Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:
They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed
Number 4 on tackles missed. Behind only Tom Horton, Tamati Tua & Chase Tiatia
Number one on the worst defensive game by a single player with 8 misses in a match
The last 1/3 of the season I would say his defence has been fine. That first 2/3 was abysmal. He was a big factor in the early Crusaders losses
@Duluth Their whole loose trio was a mess, Gardner, him and Christie were awful together. It was ony when Blackadder and Lio-Willie (despite his shocker against the Brumbies) joined Grace where their loonies somewhat improved
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The average attendance for each NZ team in Super Rugby has been finalised below. I miscalculated the Canes one initially because I factored in too many games.
Blues: average attendance of 21k
Hurricanes: average attendance of 16.1k
Chiefs: average attendance of 14.2k
Crusaders: average attendance of 12.6k
Highlanders: average attendance of 12.5k@Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:
The average attendance for each NZ team in Super Rugby has been finalised below. I miscalculated the Canes one initially because I factored in too many games.
Blues: average attendance of 21k
Hurricanes: average attendance of 16.1k
Chiefs: average attendance of 14.2k
Crusaders: average attendance of 12.6k
Highlanders: average attendance of 12.5kReposting this chart that @Tim Posted a while ago
Blues would be third, Canes just behind the Bulls, Chiefs just behind Saracens
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Shock horror. Super Rugby is popular. https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350302600/sky-reports-16-surge-super-rugby-pacific-viewership
