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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    #1259

    Looks pretty good to me with the exception of Grace. 12 is a tough one too - a few contenders.

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

      although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named

      It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.

      I'm guessing Cully felt he needed to include at least one from each franchise and there's been no standout at 6 (Finau slightly inconsistent, Ioane missed a lot of matches etc.. but they had far better seasons than Grace)

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      @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

      @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

      although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named

      It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.

      I'm guessing Cully felt he needed to include at least one from each franchise and there's been no standout at 6 (Finau slightly inconsistent, Ioane missed a lot of matches etc.. but they had far better seasons than Grace)

      Flanders has also been pretty impressive for the Canes, almost to the point he's pushing Shields out of his spot.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

        although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named

        It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.

        I'm guessing Cully felt he needed to include at least one from each franchise and there's been no standout at 6 (Finau slightly inconsistent, Ioane missed a lot of matches etc.. but they had far better seasons than Grace)

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        @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

        @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

        although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named

        It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.

        They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

          although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named

          It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.

          They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.

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          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

          @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

          @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

          although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named

          It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.

          They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.

          I know that some people on here have been able to get their hands on stats harder to access, I'd be fascinated to see them for 6s.

          If Grace gets named at 6, I'll fucking laugh my tits off. He's got talent but has been terrible / good / terrible / good. We don't need a pasty white Frizell.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @Duluth said in Super Rugby 2024:

            @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

            although the selection of the 6 might be softening the blow when the ABs are named

            It's ridiculous. He got slightly better in the final third of the season but he was abysmal early on. Some laughable efforts on defence.

            They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed. And Reece is included so there is a Crusader.

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            #1263

            @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

            They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed

            Number 4 on tackles missed. Behind only Tom Horton, Tamati Tua & Chase Tiatia

            Number one on the worst defensive game by a single player with 8 misses in a match

            The last 1/3 of the season I would say his defence has been fine. That first 2/3 was abysmal. He was a big factor in the early Crusaders losses

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

              the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours

              This is happening more.

              For the most part the Cake Tin crowd are opposite the main camera.

              I've noticed this season Eden Park have closed most of the old eastern terraces which makes the north stand and corner stand look fuller.

              It works well.

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              @KiwiMurph said in Super Rugby 2024:

              @Kiwiwomble said in Super Rugby 2024:

              the short term fix is working out how to only open the stand opposite the camera, i know none of these stadiums were designed to only partially open.....but it just seems obvious, some temp fencing or gates, pack these crowds in, start making it look like a fun place to spend a few hours

              This is happening more.

              For the most part the Cake Tin crowd are opposite the main camera.

              I've noticed this season Eden Park have closed most of the old eastern terraces which makes the north stand and corner stand look fuller.

              It works well.

              The mask slips when it's time for a kick at goal

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

                They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed

                Number 4 on tackles missed. Behind only Tom Horton, Tamati Tua & Chase Tiatia

                Number one on the worst defensive game by a single player with 8 misses in a match

                The last 1/3 of the season I would say his defence has been fine. That first 2/3 was abysmal. He was a big factor in the early Crusaders losses

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                #1265

                @Duluth The number of tackles is an indication of workrate but for an international 6 I'd be wanting to see dominant tackles. Are those stats available?

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Duluth The number of tackles is an indication of workrate but for an international 6 I'd be wanting to see dominant tackles. Are those stats available?

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                  #1266

                  @Bovidae

                  I have dominant tackles for each match. Unfortunately I don't have season counts for that though

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @Bovidae said in Super Rugby 2024:

                    They mention that Grace is in the top 10 of tackles made, not the number he missed

                    Number 4 on tackles missed. Behind only Tom Horton, Tamati Tua & Chase Tiatia

                    Number one on the worst defensive game by a single player with 8 misses in a match

                    The last 1/3 of the season I would say his defence has been fine. That first 2/3 was abysmal. He was a big factor in the early Crusaders losses

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                    #1267

                    @Duluth Their whole loose trio was a mess, Gardner, him and Christie were awful together. It was ony when Blackadder and Lio-Willie (despite his shocker against the Brumbies) joined Grace where their loonies somewhat improved

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      The average attendance for each NZ team in Super Rugby has been finalised below. I miscalculated the Canes one initially because I factored in too many games.

                      Blues: average attendance of 21k
                      Hurricanes: average attendance of 16.1k
                      Chiefs: average attendance of 14.2k
                      Crusaders: average attendance of 12.6k
                      Highlanders: average attendance of 12.5k

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                      #1268

                      @Canes4life said in Super Rugby 2024:

                      The average attendance for each NZ team in Super Rugby has been finalised below. I miscalculated the Canes one initially because I factored in too many games.

                      Blues: average attendance of 21k
                      Hurricanes: average attendance of 16.1k
                      Chiefs: average attendance of 14.2k
                      Crusaders: average attendance of 12.6k
                      Highlanders: average attendance of 12.5k

                      Reposting this chart that @Tim Posted a while ago

                      download (4).jpeg

                      Blues would be third, Canes just behind the Bulls, Chiefs just behind Saracens

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                      • SouthernMannS Offline
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                        #1269

                        Shock horror. Super Rugby is popular. https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350302600/sky-reports-16-surge-super-rugby-pacific-viewership

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                        • TimT Away
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                          https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350302600/sky-reports-16-surge-super-rugby-pacific-viewership

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                          • ChrisC Online
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                            I am not sure were to post the so have landed in this thread

                            Aaron Mauger is the new Drua asst coach.

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                            • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                              Shock horror. Super Rugby is popular. https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350302600/sky-reports-16-surge-super-rugby-pacific-viewership

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                              @SouthernMann But but but, up dah wahz? League all day?

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                                #1273

                                Helps if people observe and comment on what is actually happening, and not parrot the trendy narrative from 4 or 5 years ago. Anyone who has watched rugby in the last few years could see it's been awesome. It's just not been cool to say so.

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                                • boobooB booboo

                                  Helps if people observe and comment on what is actually happening, and not parrot the trendy narrative from 4 or 5 years ago. Anyone who has watched rugby in the last few years could see it's been awesome. It's just not been cool to say so.

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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  #1274

                                  @booboo the death riding of rugby in the NZ media over the last few years is really obvious... and odd...

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                                    MiketheSnow
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                                    #1275

                                    With the first three QFs being non-competitive blow outs should Super Rugby just culminate with SF and F?

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      With the first three QFs being non-competitive blow outs should Super Rugby just culminate with SF and F?

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                                      Tim
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                                      #1276

                                      @MiketheSnow Or a top 6?

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                                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                        With the first three QFs being non-competitive blow outs should Super Rugby just culminate with SF and F?

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                                        Duluth
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                                        #1277

                                        @MiketheSnow

                                        Yes

                                        At least it’s likely to be a top 6 next year

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          With the first three QFs being non-competitive blow outs should Super Rugby just culminate with SF and F?

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in Super Rugby 2024:

                                          With the first three QFs being non-competitive blow outs should Super Rugby just culminate with SF and F?

                                          Next year it is likely to be 3v6 and 4v5 whilst 1 and 2 get a week off.

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