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  • S Steven Harris

    @Duluth
    Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
    Refer to the link

    https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

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    KiwiMurph
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    @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2024:

    @Duluth
    Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
    Refer to the link

    https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

    Is this the same source when you said only 5,000 tickets were sold for Blues Crusaders and the crowd was 25k?

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Steven-Harris said in Blues 2024:

      @Duluth
      Blues have some serious financial woes ,so many targets not being hit around ticket attendance and merchandising along with several other KPI’s
      Refer to the link

      https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj_2ZrdkZ6BAxWRCIgKHXfcCGIQFnoECA0QAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newshub.co.nz%2Fhome%2Fsport%2F2023%2F08%2Fsuper-rugby-pacific-why-eden-park-was-left-off-blues-2024-schedule.html&usg=AOvVaw1FlsLN1f49w1r9E3JC7Q-U&opi=89978449

      Is this the same source when you said only 5,000 tickets were sold for Blues Crusaders and the crowd was 25k?

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      Steven Harris
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      @KiwiMurph leading up to that particular game and I am talking 5 days out the ticket sales were poor it was only late surge that saw the ticket sales lift but the Blues are way short of where they need to be in terms of KPIs , the outlay to stage super rugby matches outweighs what’s coming back in ,the Eden Park trust won’t give them any more credit , that’s the crux of it hence none of the games have been locked in .
      Probably something they won’t want to announce themselves
      I am really surprised the Media have not locked onto this story , I have heard they have had financial problems from 3 or 4 people who deal with the franchise indirectly.
      There’s no renovations ,FIFA World cups or NRL games scheduled for those times

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      • S Steven Harris

        @KiwiMurph leading up to that particular game and I am talking 5 days out the ticket sales were poor it was only late surge that saw the ticket sales lift but the Blues are way short of where they need to be in terms of KPIs , the outlay to stage super rugby matches outweighs what’s coming back in ,the Eden Park trust won’t give them any more credit , that’s the crux of it hence none of the games have been locked in .
        Probably something they won’t want to announce themselves
        I am really surprised the Media have not locked onto this story , I have heard they have had financial problems from 3 or 4 people who deal with the franchise indirectly.
        There’s no renovations ,FIFA World cups or NRL games scheduled for those times

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        KiwiMurph
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        @Steven-Harris I don't blame the Blues then. I don't think their crowd numbers are that bad - they would have one of the highest average crowds in the comp (low bar but still).

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @Steven-Harris I don't blame the Blues then. I don't think their crowd numbers are that bad - they would have one of the highest average crowds in the comp (low bar but still).

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          Canes4life
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          @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

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            KiwiMurph
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            @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

            @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

            Of course - but i'm talking about the issue of having big enough crowds to keep playing games at their stadium.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

              @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

              Of course - but i'm talking about the issue of having big enough crowds to keep playing games at their stadium.

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              Bovidae
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              @KiwiMurph I noted that Andrew Hore was shown in the crowd at the Auckland-Canterbury game.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @KiwiMurph so they should they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

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                Duluth
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                #206

                @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                People assume that but it’s not true.

                Using the 2019 numbers

                Region Population
                Blues 1.396m
                Chiefs 1.333m
                Hurricanes 1.019m
                Crusaders 0.797m
                Highlanders 0.337m

                Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                  they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                  People assume that but it’s not true.

                  Using the 2019 numbers

                  Region Population
                  Blues 1.396m
                  Chiefs 1.333m
                  Hurricanes 1.019m
                  Crusaders 0.797m
                  Highlanders 0.337m

                  Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

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                  Machpants
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                  #207

                  @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                  @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                  they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                  People assume that but it’s not true.

                  Using the 2019 numbers

                  Region Population
                  Blues 1.396m
                  Chiefs 1.333m
                  Hurricanes 1.019m
                  Crusaders 0.797m
                  Highlanders 0.337m

                  Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

                  I think it would be different if you put those within a half hour or so trip to the ground

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                  • M Machpants

                    @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                    @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                    they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                    People assume that but it’s not true.

                    Using the 2019 numbers

                    Region Population
                    Blues 1.396m
                    Chiefs 1.333m
                    Hurricanes 1.019m
                    Crusaders 0.797m
                    Highlanders 0.337m

                    Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

                    I think it would be different if you put those within a half hour or so trip to the ground

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                    Duluth
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                    #208

                    @Machpants no shit. Just correcting the common population error

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                      they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                      People assume that but it’s not true.

                      Using the 2019 numbers

                      Region Population
                      Blues 1.396m
                      Chiefs 1.333m
                      Hurricanes 1.019m
                      Crusaders 0.797m
                      Highlanders 0.337m

                      Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

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                      frugby
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                      #209

                      @Duluth said in Blues 2024:

                      @Canes4life said in Blues 2024:

                      they have by far and away the largest population (of any NZ team anyway).

                      People assume that but it’s not true.

                      Using the 2019 numbers

                      Region Population
                      Blues 1.396m
                      Chiefs 1.333m
                      Hurricanes 1.019m
                      Crusaders 0.797m
                      Highlanders 0.337m

                      Chiefs should play away from Hamilton more

                      This of course includes Counties and Taranaki, who will have a fair portion who actually support the Blues and the Hurricanes...

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                          Stargazer
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                          From the Club Rugby website:

                          Club Rugby understands that Tawa prop PJ Scheck is moving to the Blues.

                          The Wellington Lions prop spent time at the Highlanders this year and played one Super Rugby match. He has played 25 matches for the Lions since his debut against Northland two seasons ago.

                          Wait and see whether this rumour is correct.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            From the Club Rugby website:

                            Club Rugby understands that Tawa prop PJ Scheck is moving to the Blues.

                            The Wellington Lions prop spent time at the Highlanders this year and played one Super Rugby match. He has played 25 matches for the Lions since his debut against Northland two seasons ago.

                            Wait and see whether this rumour is correct.

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                            Nogusta
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                            @Stargazer it's correct.

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                              @Stargazer it's correct.

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                              #213

                              @Nogusta The early rumors we had about replacement prop targets were Tevita Mafileo and Finlay Brewis. I guess one of them at least is not coming. I was hoping Ahio might get a go. I think he is underrated and I see real potential in him, he gives me slight Olo Brown vibes.
                              I really hope we don't lose Josh Beehre. He has been Auckland's best along with Choat. With several teams looking for locks I suspect he will end up somewhere south, unless we go with an extra forward in the squad and one less back.

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                              • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                @Nogusta The early rumors we had about replacement prop targets were Tevita Mafileo and Finlay Brewis. I guess one of them at least is not coming. I was hoping Ahio might get a go. I think he is underrated and I see real potential in him, he gives me slight Olo Brown vibes.
                                I really hope we don't lose Josh Beehre. He has been Auckland's best along with Choat. With several teams looking for locks I suspect he will end up somewhere south, unless we go with an extra forward in the squad and one less back.

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                                frugby
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                                @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

                                @Nogusta The early rumors we had about replacement prop targets were Tevita Mafileo and Finlay Brewis. I guess one of them at least is not coming. I was hoping Ahio might get a go. I think he is underrated and I see real potential in him, he gives me slight Olo Brown vibes.
                                I really hope we don't lose Josh Beehre. He has been Auckland's best along with Choat. With several teams looking for locks I suspect he will end up somewhere south, unless we go with an extra forward in the squad and one less back.

                                Blues needed two locks realistically... Annandale, and Beehre as well?

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

                                  @Nogusta The early rumors we had about replacement prop targets were Tevita Mafileo and Finlay Brewis. I guess one of them at least is not coming. I was hoping Ahio might get a go. I think he is underrated and I see real potential in him, he gives me slight Olo Brown vibes.
                                  I really hope we don't lose Josh Beehre. He has been Auckland's best along with Choat. With several teams looking for locks I suspect he will end up somewhere south, unless we go with an extra forward in the squad and one less back.

                                  Blues needed two locks realistically... Annandale, and Beehre as well?

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                                  Daffy Jaffy
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                                  #215

                                  @frugby already signed McWhannel from the Chiefs.

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                                  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                    @frugby already signed McWhannel from the Chiefs.

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                                    frugby
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                                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

                                    @frugby already signed Mcwhannel from the Chiefs.

                                    Forgot about him... I guess there is no room in the inn then? Who left, just Tucker?
                                    If another lock has left, they may bring in a third, as playing Robinson and Suafoa there wasn't really satisfactory.

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                                      @Daffy-Jaffy said in Blues 2024:

                                      @frugby already signed Mcwhannel from the Chiefs.

                                      Forgot about him... I guess there is no room in the inn then? Who left, just Tucker?
                                      If another lock has left, they may bring in a third, as playing Robinson and Suafoa there wasn't really satisfactory.

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                                      @frugby Tucker has gone. The locks we think so far are McWhannel, Annandale, Patty T, and Darry. I hope they use Suafoa more as a loosie.

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                                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                        @Nogusta The early rumors we had about replacement prop targets were Tevita Mafileo and Finlay Brewis. I guess one of them at least is not coming. I was hoping Ahio might get a go. I think he is underrated and I see real potential in him, he gives me slight Olo Brown vibes.
                                        I really hope we don't lose Josh Beehre. He has been Auckland's best along with Choat. With several teams looking for locks I suspect he will end up somewhere south, unless we go with an extra forward in the squad and one less back.

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                                        Nogusta
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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy yea thats interesting they went for Sheck over our own local boy Ahio. Must see something in him?
                                        Taavao will also be back at the Blues next year.

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                                        • N Nogusta

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy yea thats interesting they went for Sheck over our own local boy Ahio. Must see something in him?
                                          Taavao will also be back at the Blues next year.

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                                          Steven Harris
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                                          @Nogusta said in Blues 2024:

                                          Taavao will also be back at the Blues next year.

                                          Never rated the guy, will be 34 in March 2024 for me hes just a stop gap measure

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