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  • TimT Tim

    https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350283378/super-rugby-pacific-blues-are-antithesis-carlos-era-perfect-times

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    @Tim I've said B4 he was under contract from round 10, obviously if Japanese contact commitment was over, he signed blues for 4 years, it was always on Cards

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    • TimT Tim

      https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350285525/blues-make-audacious-bid-bring-beauden-barrett-rest-super-rugby-pacific-season

      Blues looking to bring Barrett in as an injury replacement.

      I'm not a fan of players coming back into squads from overseas like that.

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      @Tim said in Blues 2024:

      Blues looking to bring Barrett in as an injury replacement.

      I'm not a fan of players coming back into squads from overseas like that.

      Based on what has been posted previously he won't be allowed to play in the knock out games. He might be allowed to play in the last round robin games

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        Evans was good in the weekend (better than previous goes at fullback), but I did have to laugh that half the great plays he got credit for from the retards doing commentary was Plummer.

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        @Kirwan There was also one where Plummer got credit for the grubber Evans put Forbes through to score his try haha.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Tim said in Blues 2024:

          Blues looking to bring Barrett in as an injury replacement.

          I'm not a fan of players coming back into squads from overseas like that.

          Based on what has been posted previously he won't be allowed to play in the knock out games. He might be allowed to play in the last round robin games

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          He can play , with NZR compensation for injury, which he's got, when he plays unsure

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            I wouldn't really be comfortable with Barrett coming back.

            He can train and play club rugby.

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              He can play , with NZR compensation for injury, which he's got, when he plays unsure

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              @george33 said in Blues 2024:

              He can play , with NZR compensation for injury, which he's got, when he plays unsure

              I think he can only get dispensation for the round robin:

              Speaking to Newstalk ZB’s Rugby Direct Podcast, New Zealand Rugby’s head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum explained the process for players to be able to turn out in Super Rugby after stints abroad.
              
              “You’re unlikely to see any of them in Super Rugby,” Lendrum said. “The competition rules are that anyone playing offshore as of April 1 in a Super competition year can’t play in the finals.
              
              “The very most you would see is someone coming back in as an emergency replacement for a few games to fill a gap.
              
              “Even then, they need dispensation from the competition. Obviously, it’s not impossible, but it’s not that likely.”
              
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                Assuming it is just for two rounds he would be really useful

                Perhaps Perofeta needs another week to get right? Put BB on the bench instead of having Evans cover 10.

                The Blues would have the opportunity to give Plummer a week off before the finals too. He's had a large workload and hasn't subbed off much

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @george33 said in Blues 2024:

                  He can play , with NZR compensation for injury, which he's got, when he plays unsure

                  I think he can only get dispensation for the round robin:

                  Speaking to Newstalk ZB’s Rugby Direct Podcast, New Zealand Rugby’s head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum explained the process for players to be able to turn out in Super Rugby after stints abroad.
                  
                  “You’re unlikely to see any of them in Super Rugby,” Lendrum said. “The competition rules are that anyone playing offshore as of April 1 in a Super competition year can’t play in the finals.
                  
                  “The very most you would see is someone coming back in as an emergency replacement for a few games to fill a gap.
                  
                  “Even then, they need dispensation from the competition. Obviously, it’s not impossible, but it’s not that likely.”
                  
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                  @Duluth No injury replacement for Zarn ,he's available is my understanding for whole comp, trained with Finlay at 9 , the bench boys , Perofeta was there also

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                    @Duluth No injury replacement for Zarn ,he's available is my understanding for whole comp, trained with Finlay at 9 , the bench boys , Perofeta was there also

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                    @george33 said in Blues 2024:

                    @Duluth No injury replacement for Zarn ,he's available is my understanding for whole comp, trained with Finlay at 9 , the bench boys , Perofeta was there also

                    Seems like the same situation as Afoa in 2023

                    Afoa was an injury replacement for the Crusaders He got dispensation to play a couple of round robin games. He wasn't playing early enough to be available for the finals

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @george33 said in Blues 2024:

                      He can play , with NZR compensation for injury, which he's got, when he plays unsure

                      I think he can only get dispensation for the round robin:

                      Speaking to Newstalk ZB’s Rugby Direct Podcast, New Zealand Rugby’s head of professional rugby Chris Lendrum explained the process for players to be able to turn out in Super Rugby after stints abroad.
                      
                      “You’re unlikely to see any of them in Super Rugby,” Lendrum said. “The competition rules are that anyone playing offshore as of April 1 in a Super competition year can’t play in the finals.
                      
                      “The very most you would see is someone coming back in as an emergency replacement for a few games to fill a gap.
                      
                      “Even then, they need dispensation from the competition. Obviously, it’s not impossible, but it’s not that likely.”
                      
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                      @Duluth Someone reading the fern?

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/super-rugby-pacific-blues-explore-possibility-of-beauden-barretts-return-for-rest-of-2024-season/FNNT2UAHIRCNJJHBNHG6DSQOXI/

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                        Think Razor may have something to do with this whole Beauden situation

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                        • TimT Tim

                          @Duluth Someone reading the fern?

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/super-rugby-pacific-blues-explore-possibility-of-beauden-barretts-return-for-rest-of-2024-season/FNNT2UAHIRCNJJHBNHG6DSQOXI/

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                          @Tim wow there's intruders , this was known probably 2 weeks ago, NZ Herald who is the scribe

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                            Parsons said on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod that Cashmore "went down on the weekend", so might be another 1st 5 out.

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                              Ofa re-signed 2026

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                              • TimT Tim

                                Parsons said on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod that Cashmore "went down on the weekend", so might be another 1st 5 out.

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                                @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                                Parsons said on the Aotearoa Rugby Pod that Cashmore "went down on the weekend", so might be another 1st 5 out.

                                He did make an interesting point about the playing before April rule. At some point it has to be flexible

                                For instance the Tahs have lost a ridiculous number of props. If they were in the finals, some of their props arrived after the cut off date. Surely they would be allowed to use them?

                                It gets murky though. At the moment the Blues still have enough players to cover 10 and fullback. One more injury and they are playing people out of position

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                                  Any idea if they are replacing Lay next year? We have four good props, and hopefully Sheck will develop well at tighthead. Still need six good props in this competition though.

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                                    Any idea if they are replacing Lay next year? We have four good props, and hopefully Sheck will develop well at tighthead. Still need six good props in this competition though.

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                                    @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                                    Any idea if they are replacing Lay next year? We have four good props, and hopefully Sheck will develop well at tighthead. Still need six good props in this competition though.

                                    I had forgotten that Tevita Mafileo has been rumoured to move back. Covers both sides. Better loosehead?

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                                      Any idea if they are replacing Lay next year? We have four good props, and hopefully Sheck will develop well at tighthead. Still need six good props in this competition though.

                                      I had forgotten that Tevita Mafileo has been rumoured to move back. Covers both sides. Better loosehead?

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                                      @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                                      @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                                      Any idea if they are replacing Lay next year? We have four good props, and hopefully Sheck will develop well at tighthead. Still need six good props in this competition though.

                                      I had forgotten that Tevita Mafileo has been rumoured to move back. Covers both sides. Better loosehead?

                                      Is he not contracted to 2025 ? at the canes.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                                        @Tim said in Blues 2024:

                                        Any idea if they are replacing Lay next year? We have four good props, and hopefully Sheck will develop well at tighthead. Still need six good props in this competition though.

                                        I had forgotten that Tevita Mafileo has been rumoured to move back. Covers both sides. Better loosehead?

                                        Is he not contracted to 2025 ? at the canes.

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                                        Tim
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                                        @Chris Honestly have no idea.

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                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/why-auckland-blue-is-primed-to-take-over-from-canterbury-red-and-black/

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