All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2
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Referee was excellent, I thought.
Very good game to watch by both teams.
First 20 minutes were amazing, best AB 20 mins I've seen for quite a while.
Second 20 was evens, ABs still playing alright but Boks improved, just could not finish.
Third quarter was, sadly, what we now expect from Foster's ABs , the big slump, which coincided with the Boks really getting into their groove.
What was a bit unexpected was the turnaround at 70mins. Last Bok try was so unnecessary, though. Exciting watch..@Tordah said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Referee was excellent, I thought.
Yeah, not 100% a dick, no.
Had his Random Frog moment with the free kick against Taylor.
I've seen that shit before and it pisses me off. Sanction the fuckers that aren't standing back off the mark.
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@booboo aside from a few poor kicks and decisions (assuming they weren't part of game plan) otherwise was his best game in years.
While Christie made an outstanding tackle and created an excellent turnover, imo he is a massive problem for our continuity.
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@Stargazer said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Imagine if he hadn't missed all those tests with his head issue too.
He should be getting the ball at 15 with the full field to run at.
Even though he is a gun at 14, the defender still has the touchline to use against him.
From 15 I think he will be unstoppable.
Do it Fozzie, PLEASE.
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Best ABs opening 20 since handing Ireland a ¼ final exit. Frizzell was sensational in that period. Cane is also playing very well and I think it helps ardie having frizzell doing some of the hard yards. A bit worrying that SA came back we need other bench options then Vaai and papalii in my opinion. Jordan and telea are light years better than Clarke. We might actually have a chance in France, especially if we can negotiate our ¼ final.
@Billy-Tell said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Best ABs opening 20 since handing Ireland a ¼ final exit. Frizzell was sensational in that period. Cane is also playing very well and I think it helps ardie having frizzell doing some of the hard yards. A bit worrying that SA came back we need other bench options then Vaai and papalii in my opinion. Jordan and telea are light years better than Clarke. We might actually have a chance in France, especially if we can negotiate our ¼ final.
Vaai has done nothing to impress me in his cameos in black thus far. I don't see it.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
What's not to like?
Exits.
What was he doing that was outside the team tactics?
Edit: sorry, was replying to your reply which I thought was replying to another post ...
Peeps down on Beaudie for doing exactly what was required by the tactics.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
What's not to like?
Exits.
What was he doing that was outside the team tactics?
Edit: sorry, was replying to your reply which I thought was replying to another post ...
Peeps down on Beaudie for doing exactly what was required by the tactics.
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
What's not to like?
Exits.
What was he doing that was outside the team tactics?
Was referring to our exits - which were poor compared to the Bokke. Think it was @gt12 who posted a pic of BB.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
What's not to like?
Exits.
What was he doing that was outside the team tactics?
Edit: sorry, was replying to your reply which I thought was replying to another post ...
Peeps down on Beaudie for doing exactly what was required by the tactics.
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
Peeps down on Beaudie for doing exactly what was required by the tactics.
Yeah, Ritchie followed tactics as well but I thought BB's execution wasn't that good and he made 1-2 poor decisions. Not down on him per se but think as a senior player he needs to reduce those errors and just be a bit more solid.
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Interesting how it’s all going , feels a bit like 2003 at a similar stage .
World Cup year , Patchy form leading into the year , then we play bloody well in the tri nations and get a bit more optimistic.
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@booboo aside from a few poor kicks and decisions (assuming they weren't part of game plan) otherwise was his best game in years.
While Christie made an outstanding tackle and created an excellent turnover, imo he is a massive problem for our continuity.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
While Christie made an outstanding tackle and created an excellent turnover, imo he is a massive problem for our continuity.
The step down from Nugget is a huge problem but I thought Ginger did his job really well today. Problem is that may well be a one-off and he doesn't fill me with confidence.
Just hope Roigard can fill that role.
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Interesting how it’s all going , feels a bit like 2003 at a similar stage .
World Cup year , Patchy form leading into the year , then we play bloody well in the tri nations and get a bit more optimistic.
Closer to ‘99 after a horrific year in ‘98.
2002 we looked like we were building into a decent side.
From here it’s all about improvement. Will today’s performance be good enough in a RWC final. No. So it’s all about building and small improvements, getting our combinations to gel further and continue to bed in our plans.
The AB’s haven’t had the luxury as other sides to implement Schmidt/Ryan’s plans so every game/week is vital to get to where they want to be.
It’s encouraging so far, as was the end of last year was (even the draw against England showed enough), this win today, following the game against the Argies, will really help us mentally as we need to find a way to put 3 big games together to win the RWC. Something we haven’t done for some time.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
While Christie made an outstanding tackle and created an excellent turnover, imo he is a massive problem for our continuity.
The step down from Nugget is a huge problem but I thought Ginger did his job really well today. Problem is that may well be a one-off and he doesn't fill me with confidence.
Just hope Roigard can fill that role.
My big worry is that we don’t have the depth of other contenders, especially in the pack and key positions like 9.
We really can’t afford to lose too many of our top players to injury, but of course, that is a lottery.
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Negative nelly time because I am going to rain on the parade a bit. The first 20 minutes or so were exceptional, absolutely wonderful to watch. As someone posted above, they seemed razor focused. Most things worked for the AB's way, the Boks were poor and the ABs got the benefit of multiple penalties. The problem I have is that it is not humanly possible to play with that intensity and to have things go your way like that each week. It's hard enough doing it all game.
When the Abs play like they did at the start they are a sight to behold. But after that start they largely reverted to old. Once the Boks composed themselves and got their smothering defence going all the ABs could do was play a version of sevens, or put up the bomb. The team does not seem to know how, or have the ability, to do anything else.
Sure, the ABs got the win, and found a way back into the game after it looked like the Boks were going to steal the game, but the move that got the ABs the game in the end was the move that many of us on here hate - the BB cross kick. The bounce of the ball. Up until then we had buggar all.
As others pointed out the ABs need to find a way to gain territory when they are being bludgeoned and smothered. I am not sure playing sevens and putting up high kicks is the answer, because it requires too many things to go your way. It is too hard to execute consistently under the pressure of a rush defence and a World Cup knockout game.
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
While Christie made an outstanding tackle and created an excellent turnover, imo he is a massive problem for our continuity.
The step down from Nugget is a huge problem but I thought Ginger did his job really well today. Problem is that may well be a one-off and he doesn't fill me with confidence.
Just hope Roigard can fill that role.
@Victor-Meldrew as I said before the game, defensively he is one of the best and last night had some great moments there, but his decision making, or more decisiveness and slow pass affects the game we seem to be trying to play, and we already have a drop to most of our bench, he makes it seem larger imo.
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@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
I'm going to have to rewatch. What did BB do wrong?
I'll take Jordan. Keen to actually try and understand why the garbage play he produces is completely ignored.
@Bones said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@booboo said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
I'm going to have to rewatch. What did BB do wrong?
I'll take Jordan. Keen to actually try and understand why the garbage play he produces is completely ignored.
Give me 12 hours though as way too sober.
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Negative nelly time because I am going to rain on the parade a bit. The first 20 minutes or so were exceptional, absolutely wonderful to watch. As someone posted above, they seemed razor focused. Most things worked for the AB's way, the Boks were poor and the ABs got the benefit of multiple penalties. The problem I have is that it is not humanly possible to play with that intensity and to have things go your way like that each week. It's hard enough doing it all game.
When the Abs play like they did at the start they are a sight to behold. But after that start they largely reverted to old. Once the Boks composed themselves and got their smothering defence going all the ABs could do was play a version of sevens, or put up the bomb. The team does not seem to know how, or have the ability, to do anything else.
Sure, the ABs got the win, and found a way back into the game after it looked like the Boks were going to steal the game, but the move that got the ABs the game in the end was the move that many of us on here hate - the BB cross kick. The bounce of the ball. Up until then we had buggar all.
As others pointed out the ABs need to find a way to gain territory when they are being bludgeoned and smothered. I am not sure playing sevens and putting up high kicks is the answer, because it requires too many things to go your way. It is too hard to execute consistently under the pressure of a rush defence and a World Cup knockout game.
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@Victor-Meldrew as I said before the game, defensively he is one of the best and last night had some great moments there, but his decision making, or more decisiveness and slow pass affects the game we seem to be trying to play, and we already have a drop to most of our bench, he makes it seem larger imo.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks Vs Springboks RC Week 2:
@Victor-Meldrew as I said before the game, defensively he is one of the best and last night had some great moments there, but his decision making, or more decisiveness and slow pass affects the game we seem to be trying to play, and we already have a drop to most of our bench, he makes it seem larger imo.
Yeah, can't fault the guys tenacity and endeavour. Just lacks the instinct and ability. Give him a tablespoon of Perenara's instinct and Ellis' skill and he'd be a fantastic halfback.
