Australia v All Blacks - Bled I
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@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
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@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots
It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.
Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .
And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself
I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.
Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.
Yep seems the tickets maybe not selling great, seems the cut price ones alreadt released.
yeah, they didn't sell out Marvel last year (close but not quite) and that was after giving out cheap or free tickets....not sure where they thought another 30-40k people were coming from
Damn good atmosphere for 54,000 though. Great night and I was in a section where there weren’t many AB supporters. There was plenty of good banter being thrown my way, until of course I started dancing in the aisle after Jordie scored in the corner and the good will suddenly left
@ACT-Crusader there was children there huh
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@DaGrubster said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Fingers crossed it doesn’t happen but if there are injuries to the back 3 then he is primed to come into the squad having spent a few weeks with them
I'd say there would need to be at least 2 injuries for that to happen, you'd think they likely only see him as wing cover, so injuries to 2 or 3 of CC, LF, WJ, BE & MT before they consider him.
@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@DaGrubster said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Fingers crossed it doesn’t happen but if there are injuries to the back 3 then he is primed to come into the squad having spent a few weeks with them
I'd say there would need to be at least 2 injuries for that to happen, you'd think they likely only see him as wing cover, so injuries to 2 or 3 of CC, LF, WJ, BE & MT before they consider him.
Add to that, if Beaudy gets injured they are probably calling up Perofeta before Stevenson.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Dan54 said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@ACT-Crusader said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@NTA said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@kiwiinmelb said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
If I was Eddie , I’d be trying to take advantage that the abs may just be a tad complacent after being 2-0 up against a team that is 0-2 , not firing warning shots
It is about media attention. Like Cheika, he wants to keep the spotlight on his bullshit rather than the performances.
Yeah get that but I remember before the 2011 wc semi , and some Aussie players , kearns etc taking shots at Nz’s choking etc .
And nick Farjones saying , I think it’s a big mistake before playing Nz giving them motivation,our best victories have come from taking them by surprise against the odds . I always believe it’s best to not poke the bear and try and take them by surprise in the game itself
I think all of that talk has very little to do with what goes on out on the park. There may be a momentary thought of it perhaps during the anthems or the haka, but then the players just settle into their work. They are not thinking about what Eddie (or anyone else for that matter said) almost two weeks out from the match.
Given the break it’s about keeping a waning Oz fan base interested with some coverage.
Yep seems the tickets maybe not selling great, seems the cut price ones alreadt released.
yeah, they didn't sell out Marvel last year (close but not quite) and that was after giving out cheap or free tickets....not sure where they thought another 30-40k people were coming from
Damn good atmosphere for 54,000 though. Great night and I was in a section where there weren’t many AB supporters. There was plenty of good banter being thrown my way, until of course I started dancing in the aisle after Jordie scored in the corner and the good will suddenly left
@ACT-Crusader agreed, was better than i was expecting (except the smoke from the fireworks), i just hope they do at least get close to selling out, 50k might look super full at the MCG
I'm assuming the Vic Government is helping foot some of the bill to gte the games in Melbourne, you just know sydney or Brisbane would be easier to get a big crowd
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It's not uncommon for the head coach to be a man manager and the assistants to be the technical coaches.
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
It's not uncommon for the head coach to be a man manager and the assistants to be the technical coaches.
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
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Interesting - the Lions-Rebels will be at Marvel whereas the Lions-Wallabies will be at MCG
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
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@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
maybe if they play Carlton or Collingwood
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It's not uncommon for the head coach to be a man manager and the assistants to be the technical coaches.
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
It's not uncommon for the head coach to be a man manager and the assistants to be the technical coaches.
As long as they have found a formula that works , thats all that matters to me
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@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
I guess they are banking on an extra-large touring fanbase from Lions given no crowd in South Africa on the last Lions tour.
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@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
I guess they are banking on an extra-large touring fanbase from Lions given no crowd in South Africa on the last Lions tour.
@KiwiMurph i guess so, rebels basically playing an away game
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@Dan54 The 2 playmaker thing has been pretty much shit for the ABs until last weekend. It's a nice idea with a heap of potential upside, but that is the first time it has actually worked with Mounga and Barrett together - so it is a bit weird to say conclusively that is how the ABs operate best.
Despite never actually playing at fullback, Mo'unga is the guy who plays most like a 2nd playmaker. He's always deep, frequently in the second line, often leaves the early plays and short passes to runners and decision-making to others. Beauden is a shoveller who largely looks for opportunities for himself or tries a cross-kick/chip/bomb and gives away too much possession. McKenzie is the guy who actually plays like an attacking 10, flat at the line and looking to put people into gaps.
I don't think they have the guts to bite the bullet, or the time to do it in their usual ultra conservative methodology, but our best side would have McKenzie at 10, and not Barrett at 15.@reprobate Yep, well we kind of have opinions. I agree RMo has always liked playing in second line, even for Crusaders he seems most comfortable with Havili taking the ball as first receiver. I think DMac can operate at 10 if needed, but would still go with RMo and BB .
I not into the anyone but BB at 15, but not part of anti BB (or anyone) brigade anyway. I thought we has a system they obviously trying to get to work, when it does, I not a fan of dropping it. If BB not at 15 I would have RMo and Dmac anyway to play same style. -
Interesting to hear BB on the rugby podcast that Schmidt has had a lot of influence on their structure and backplay this season. What was telling was BB said the entire team has buy in to what Schmidt is selling which may suggest in previous years they had doubts about Fozzies masterplan.
@chimoaus said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Interesting to hear BB on the rugby podcast that Schmidt has had a lot of influence on their structure and backplay this season. What was telling was BB said the entire team has buy in to what Schmidt is selling which may suggest in previous years they had doubts about Fozzies masterplan.
He actually says they bought into Schmidt's way of doing, and that Fozzie has always been the one who is the masterplan man , and still does. Sounded like they struggled with Brad Moar, but never hinted at that anyway.
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@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
It's not uncommon for the head coach to be a man manager and the assistants to be the technical coaches.
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
Possibly. Recall the likes of RM and others (BBBR?) going out of their way to support Foster last year so good to hear them doing the same for Ryan and Schmidt. Teamwork, togetherness and all that.
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@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
Possibly. Recall the likes of RM and others (BBBR?) going out of their way to support Foster last year so good to hear them doing the same for Ryan and Schmidt. Teamwork, togetherness and all that.
@Victor-Meldrew said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
Yes, I think it's more an indictment on the previous assistant coaches.
Possibly. Recall the likes of RM and others (BBBR?) going out of their way to support Foster last year so good to hear them doing the same for Ryan and Schmidt. Teamwork, togetherness and all that.
Hmmm....that support lead to Foster getting the given the don't come back. Are Ryan and Schmidt both gone too?
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@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
I guess they are banking on an extra-large touring fanbase from Lions given no crowd in South Africa on the last Lions tour.
@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@Kiwiwomble said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
@KiwiMurph really? i cant imagine theyre going to fill Marvel for any game the rebels play....
I guess they are banking on an extra-large touring fanbase from Lions given no crowd in South Africa on the last Lions tour.
Should’ve played at AAMI. 50K+ aren’t going out to watch the Rebels get smashed. But 25k diehards would
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Add Ofa, Colesey and Nepo and you have the Bulk of AB Bench. 6-2 anyone? https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300929876/all-blacks-quintet-released-for-npc-preseason-action-in-te-awamutu-on-saturday
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https://www.rugby.com.au/news/updated-wallabies-squad-bledisloe-cup-eddie-jones-2023719
Jones has made major changes with fullback Tom Wright the notable omission from the squad after two straight defeats to start the season. Wright has been left out of the squad along with Brumbies teammate Pete Samu and Rebel Reece Hodge. Josh Kemeny and Matt Gibbon along with Reds prop Zane Nonggorr have also made way, with Pone Fa'amausili and Blake Schoupp retaining their place in the squad after they were late inclusions for the Sydney Test. It comes as a host of players return from injury, headlined by Rebel Andrew Kellaway. Kellaway is joined by backrower Langi Gleeson and outside back Jordan Petaia for the Tests in Melbourne and Dunedin. Prop Taniela Tupou has also been confirmed to return after coming back via Australia A last week in Tonga. -
As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
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As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
@antipodean said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:
As much as people hate Eddie swapping and changing his squads, he's brutal when it comes to form.
So Ala'alatoa has been dropped? Selective form then.
