Australia v All Blacks - Bled I

taniwharugby

@voodoo or more a slow learner...?

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

mariner4life

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

or more a slow learner...?

lol what? The vast majority of the team have been in place for years.

voodoo

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

@voodoo or more a slow learner...?

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

KiwiMurph

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

They've got options. Jacobson could come on at 8 and AS could shift to 7. AS could get subbed and Whitelock comes on as captain. Jacobson could come on at 7 in place of Dalton (especially as Wallabies don't have an out and out 7 in the 23).

TheMojoman

I like it. Strong team, strengthening combos and consistent selection. Now they just have to perform on the day.

Bovidae

@KiwiMurph said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

I also like Jacobson off the bench, but have to think this means DP and AS going 80?

They've got options. Jacobson could come on at 8 and AS could shift to 7. AS could get subbed and Whitelock comes on as captain. Jacobson could come on at 7 in place of Dalton (especially as Wallabies don't have an out and out 7 in the 23).

Yeah, I was just typing something similar.

We also have to factor in whether SB replaces Frizell at 6, or he or BBBR are subbed for Whitelock.

sparky

Any announcement on how long Sam Cane is out for and how close to fitness he is?

Overall, I’m liking the look of that team.

Rancid Schnitzel

@Duluth said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

https://www.allblacks.com/news/ardie-savea-to-captain-all-blacks-against-australia-in-melbourne/

Ethan de Groot (15)

Codie Taylor (78)

Tyrel Lomax (25)

Brodie Retallick (101)

Scott Barrett (60)

Shannon Frizell (27)

Dalton Papali’i (24)

Ardie Savea (72 - captain)

Aaron Smith (116)

Richie Mo’unga (46)

Mark Telea (3)

Jordie Barrett (50)

Rieko Ioane (61)

Will Jordan (22)

Beauden Barrett (114)

Samisoni Taukei’aho (22)

Ofa Tu’ungfasi (51)

Nepo Laulala (47)

Samuel Whitelock (143)

Luke Jacobson (12)

Cam Roigard *

Anton Lienert-Brown (60)

Caleb Clarke (17)

Canes4life

I think we've missed a trick with no DMac on the bench. Surely he's the sort of player that will tear Aussie to shreds in the last 20 mins, be it at 10 or 15.

taniwharugby

@KiwiMurph is more that AS hasnt moved to 7 much in recent years, and Jacobson is more a 6/8 as well, although DP is more a 6/7 anyway...although we have moved from the 'traditional' out and out 7 anyway, IMO we are probably closer to running with 3 6.somethings, but just starting from a different spot.

AS usually goes 80, does Frizell often go 80, meaning this is more likely where LJ will go?

Sure plenty of options there, including a 'worst case' scenario of SW going to lock, SB to 6 and then LJ to 6/7 or 8....

TheMojoman

@Canes4life said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

I think we've missed a trick with no DMac on the bench. Surely he's the sort of player that will tear Aussie to shreds in the last 20 mins, be it at 10 or 15.

Agreed. As much as I like Caleb Clarke he’s a waste on the bench ie, no flexibility. DMac would’ve been much better.

voodoo

@Canes4life said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

I think we've missed a trick with no DMac on the bench. Surely he's the sort of player that will tear Aussie to shreds in the last 20 mins, be it at 10 or 15.

I agree, and said the same earlier re Clarke.

On DMac, I would also have preferred him, not so much to "tear the aussies to shreds in the last 20" (you cocky fucker :smiling_face_with_sunglasses: ). but more because I'd like to see him get more time at 10. I am resigned to the fact that BB is likely to be our back-up 10 in the preferred 23 if RM gets injured IN a big game, but if we had to START a different 10 because RM cops an injury the week before, I'd probably prefer that be DMac over BB - and at the least, I'd like to see it once more before the big dance starts

KiwiMurph

Gold from Eddie Jones.

Love it.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/07/27/kiwis-think-theyre-better-than-us-eddie-turns-up-heat-on-bledisloe-rivals-saying-country-sinks-when-all-blacks-lose/

taniwharugby

@KiwiMurph if nothing, he peaks a bit more interest form Across the Ta$man, winds up a few Kiwis...

dogmeat

piqué - to excite or arouse especially by a provocation, challenge, or rebuff. sly remarks to pique their curiosity.

taniwharugby

@dogmeat interest also peaks

isnt that @booboo job anyway?

TheMojoman

Eddie is the ultimate shit stirrer. Good entertainment.

Looking at his team. Big forwards, massive backrow, Arnold and Tupou on the bench would have to be some of the largest forwards in the world?

They’re not being subtle, they’re going to take us on upfront, try to stop the AB gain line, flood the breakdown to mess up our ball. They’ve got the personnel to do it, will be interesting to watch.

Big weakness is combinations 9, 10, 13 & 15. How well will they operate under pressure? How well can they adjust when momentum shifts etc.

On paper it looks closer than form suggests.

dogmeat

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

isnt that @booboo job anyway?

He's let the odd one through to the boundary of late, so I thought I'd help him out

Bovidae

The ABs need to target the Wallaby scrum. Bell is coming back from a long injury, and Ala'alatoa has struggled most of the year. Start by dominating the set piece.

booboo

@taniwharugby said in Australia v All Blacks - Bled I:

@KiwiMurph if nothing, he peaks a bit more interest form Across the Ta$man, winds up a few Kiwis...

@dogmeat

I won't even mention the spelling mistake or appalling use (or non-use) of capital letters.

The Silver Fern

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