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  • ARHSA ARHS

    The World Rugby website has gone way backwards too. Full of incomplete information and errors. Nobody seems to care about accurate record keeping any more.

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    @ARHS said in NZR review:

    The World Rugby website has gone way backwards too. Full of incomplete information and errors. Nobody seems to care about accurate record keeping any more.

    The SVNS app is shithouse too, go to follow live for an event and it never fucking refreshes for me after the first time opening, so I just stay stuck on the games from the first time I opened it that weekend. Have tried refreshing, force stopping the app and even deleting the cache/data and nothing.

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      https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/nzr-appointments-and-remuneration-panel-confirms-board-candidates-for-ratification

      The nine candidates are:
      Caren Rangi ONZM
      Catherine Savage
      David Kirk MBE
      Doug Jones
      Grant Jarrold
      Greg Barclay
      Keven Mealamu MNZM
      Julia Raue
      Rowena Davenport

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      • NepiaN Nepia

        @Bovidae said in NZR review:

        Allblacks.com has updated their stats page. It might look good but it's nowhere near as user friendly as the older website.

        It's fucking terrible, I was going to do a rant about it on the grumpy thread the other day but didn't get around to it.

        The players pages are useless now. The breakdown of position's played has gone, you actually have to go into every single game and look at each player. They no longer have when a replacement player went on and who they replaced.

        It's genuinely a terrible update and it's a shittier product. This is what happens when the corporates take over from those (The Rugby Museum) with a genuine love of the game.

        If you can't provide all the relevant info in your new shiny skin then just keep the old skin.

        This has actually made me angrier than it should.

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        @Nepia said in NZR review:

        @Bovidae said in NZR review:

        Allblacks.com has updated their stats page. It might look good but it's nowhere near as user friendly as the older website.

        It's fucking terrible, I was going to do a rant about it on the grumpy thread the other day but didn't get around to it.

        The players pages are useless now. The breakdown of position's played has gone, you actually have to go into every single game and look at each player. They no longer have when a replacement player went on and who they replaced.

        It's genuinely a terrible update and it's a shittier product. This is what happens when the corporates take over from those (The Rugby Museum) with a genuine love of the game.

        If you can't provide all the relevant info in your new shiny skin then just keep the old skin.

        This has actually made me angrier than it should.

        Just get Duluth to do it.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @ARHS said in NZR review:

          The World Rugby website has gone way backwards too. Full of incomplete information and errors. Nobody seems to care about accurate record keeping any more.

          The SVNS app is shithouse too, go to follow live for an event and it never fucking refreshes for me after the first time opening, so I just stay stuck on the games from the first time I opened it that weekend. Have tried refreshing, force stopping the app and even deleting the cache/data and nothing.

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          @Bones said in NZR review:

          @ARHS said in NZR review:

          The World Rugby website has gone way backwards too. Full of incomplete information and errors. Nobody seems to care about accurate record keeping any more.

          The SVNS app is shithouse too, go to follow live for an event and it never fucking refreshes for me after the first time opening, so I just stay stuck on the games from the first time I opened it that weekend. Have tried refreshing, force stopping the app and even deleting the cache/data and nothing.

          You are so right there. Have looked for other ways to find information, like who players 24 and 37 are, and given up as so long winded.

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          • M Machpants

            Nah, I think we (like other nations) have been sold a dummy with private equity. I thought it was the correct idea based on the sales pitch but there is no more money to be had. We'll be lucky to break even with the silver lake deal, same the abs recent performances (along with the all blacks 7s 🤮) isn't helping

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            @Machpants said in NZR review:

            Nah, I think we (like other nations) have been sold a dummy with private equity. I thought it was the correct idea based on the sales pitch but there is no more money to be had. We'll be lucky to break even with the silver lake deal, same the abs recent performances (along with the all blacks 7s 🤮) isn't helping

            It was always a shit deal. We are lucky the original one wasn’t signed. Trouble is everyone believes in perpetual growth and greed takes over.

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              Good news tho, here

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360516795/former-all-blacks-captain-david-kirk-poised-be-next-chair-nz-rugby

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                  https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/979655

                  FYI:

                  It's the view of the mods that sharing one genuine paragraph of a paywalled story may be acceptable, if you link to it (to generate potential traffic for the news outlet), but if you wish to share more, just summarize it in your own words. Do not take the piss either by squeezing 3-4 paragraphs together to make it look like one.

                  As a rule, any news article posted on a Fern should have a link back to the original source.

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                    Eight of the nine candidates were ratified. Rowena Davenport was not.

                    https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/update-on-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratification-process

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Eight of the nine candidates were ratified. Rowena Davenport was not.

                      https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/update-on-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratification-process

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                      @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                      Eight of the nine candidates were ratified. Rowena Davenport was not.

                      https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/update-on-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratification-process

                      Seems a bit random - any inside oil on why she wasn't ratified?

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                      • GodderG Godder

                        @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                        Eight of the nine candidates were ratified. Rowena Davenport was not.

                        https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/update-on-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratification-process

                        Seems a bit random - any inside oil on why she wasn't ratified?

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                        @Godder The good money would be on some of the provincial unions being pissed off that an incumbent stayed on whilst those two fellas didn't get an interview, but that would then seem bizarre that the other incumbent stayed on.

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                        • M Machpants

                          Good news tho, here

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360516795/former-all-blacks-captain-david-kirk-poised-be-next-chair-nz-rugby

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                          @Machpants https://www.planetrugby.com/news/all-blacks-two-world-cup-winners-added-to-new-zealand-rugby-board

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                            @Godder The good money would be on some of the provincial unions being pissed off that an incumbent stayed on whilst those two fellas didn't get an interview, but that would then seem bizarre that the other incumbent stayed on.

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                            @frugby said in NZR review:

                            @Godder The good money would be on some of the provincial unions being pissed off that an incumbent stayed on whilst those two fellas didn't get an interview, but that would then seem bizarre that the other incumbent stayed on.

                            The word is that the PUs weren't happy with Davenport and her stance when the different proposals were discussed earlier in the year.

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                              My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
                              A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
                                A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

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                                @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                                My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
                                A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

                                Having Kirk in charge is the best news, they rolled back the changes to more like the NZRPA wanted, and now he will lead with some actual nous

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                                • M Machpants

                                  @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                                  My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
                                  A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

                                  Having Kirk in charge is the best news, they rolled back the changes to more like the NZRPA wanted, and now he will lead with some actual nous

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                                  @Machpants said in NZR review:

                                  @Dan54 said in NZR review:

                                  My only thought on the board is a slightly uneasy feeling about Kirk being chairman. He was chairman of NZPA that threatened split if the board didn't get made uo how the Pilkington report suggested, as soon as they het it he stands as chairman?
                                  A suspicious man could think he was maybe angling for the job. Not saying he was but just not quite right for mine.

                                  Having Kirk in charge is the best news, they rolled back the changes to more like the NZRPA wanted, and now he will lead with some actual nous

                                  Yep not real upset mate, just uneasy the way it played out. I not sure it best look. Also perhaps I just may feel better if the chairman lived in NZ so as to have finger on pulse, but to be honest I suppose he is not going to worry about grassroots?

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                                    New Zealand Rugby’s (NZR) voting members have ratified Marise James to take up the final position on the NZR Board.

                                    The NZR Appointments and Remuneration Committee (ARP) put James forward for ratification at the beginning of March. Ratification required majority approval from NZR’s voting members, consisting of the 26 Provincial Unions and the NZ Māori Rugby Board. The ratification postal ballot closed at 5pm on Wednesday 12 March.

                                    https://www.nzrugby.co.nz/news-and-events/latest-news/final-member-of-new-zealand-rugby-board-ratified

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                                      The AGM is today. Mark Robinson and David Kirk will front the media this afternoon.

                                      As reported previously, NZR made another loss in 2024.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360681816/new-zealand-rugby-reports-195m-loss-2024-chief-executive-mark-robinson-says-model-unsustainable

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                                        The AGM is today. Mark Robinson and David Kirk will front the media this afternoon.

                                        As reported previously, NZR made another loss in 2024.

                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360681816/new-zealand-rugby-reports-195m-loss-2024-chief-executive-mark-robinson-says-model-unsustainable

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                                        @Bovidae said in NZR review:

                                        As reported previously, NZR made another loss in 2024.

                                        Revenue up $17M, loss up from $8Mish to $19M.

                                        Something in there needs some serious attention. And silverlake may pick up 7.7% of revenue in a year or two, indefinitely.

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                                          As the article says NZR spent more on Teams in Black and Admin, plus other expenses/losses. Totals in $000

                                          Screenshot 2025-05-08 at 14.08.59.png

                                          NZR-Performance-Report-2024.pdf

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