RWC Week 1: France v All Blacks
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The Economist writing the ABs’ obituary today.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2023/09/07/new-zealands-rugby-supremacy-is-over-good
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@reprobate said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@dogmeat yeah i was actually just thinking i should probably do some apologising for being a dick in the lead-up. thought i had got to the point of just laughing off the repeated dumb stuff we're doing but still care a fair bit, i guess.
As us long-suffering Chiefs supporters can’t stop pointing out: now you know why we were all such fluffybunnies (not sure what our excuse is for last decade, mind.)
@Smuts said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@reprobate said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@dogmeat yeah i was actually just thinking i should probably do some apologising for being a dick in the lead-up. thought i had got to the point of just laughing off the repeated dumb stuff we're doing but still care a fair bit, i guess.
As us long-suffering Chiefs supporters can’t stop pointing out: now you know why we were all such fluffybunnies (not sure what our excuse is for last decade, mind.)
Testify brother
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@Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Gooooooo, Christie!
I didn't watch this game, and I hadn't seen the try - more specifically that pretty shitty play by the oke that dives on him when he's over the line.
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@Machpants said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Gooooooo, Christie!
I didn't watch this game, and I hadn't seen the try - more specifically that pretty shitty play by the oke that dives on him when he's over the line.
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@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
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@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
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@canefan well just think back to the tough times c 2011-2015 when our top teams were as predictable as the results...people moaned then too.
@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan well just think back to the tough times c 2011-2015 when our top teams were as predictable as the results...people moaned then too.
I've just never felt such a lack of investment as I do now. Maybe I'm just getting older...
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The Economist writing the ABs’ obituary today.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2023/09/07/new-zealands-rugby-supremacy-is-over-good
@His-Bobness said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
The Economist writing the ABs’ obituary today.
https://www.economist.com/culture/2023/09/07/new-zealands-rugby-supremacy-is-over-good
Cant read it ,
But the Aura is gone type articles, quite often come back to bite the writer on the arse ,
And we havent had one for a while , could be a good omen ( im desperate )
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@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
If you only watch the WC because you want or expect the ABs to win, I think you should perhaps find something to follow that's not a sport.
I am honestly looking forward to this one more than almost any I can think of.
We got a WC where I honestly have no idea who will win, and though the draw has been f***ed up in my opinion, there will be at least 2 of the top 4 teams in world won't make it past QF stage. I know some want an orderly WC where best couple of teams make final, but I have a feeling there could be chaos in deciding who makes finals, and that is fun to me!
And although I am a one eyed AB supporter, and will be cheering them on at every stage, if they win it or lose it while giving me pleasure, isn't going to effect my life. I am no matter what. The team is the one doing it, not me.
Bit like what @mariner4life talked about with some Crusader's supporters. -
@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan well just think back to the tough times c 2011-2015 when our top teams were as predictable as the results...people moaned then too.
I've just never felt such a lack of investment as I do now. Maybe I'm just getting older...
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan well just think back to the tough times c 2011-2015 when our top teams were as predictable as the results...people moaned then too.
I've just never felt such a lack of investment as I do now. Maybe I'm just getting older...
yeah im a bit the same,
partly because i lack confidence in the current side
but also winning 2 in a row after the drought took away some of that anxious we have to win this one feeling
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@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
If you only watch the WC because you want or expect the ABs to win, I think you should perhaps find something to follow that's not a sport.
I am honestly looking forward to this one more than almost any I can think of.
We got a WC where I honestly have no idea who will win, and though the draw has been f***ed up in my opinion, there will be at least 2 of the top 4 teams in world won't make it past QF stage. I know some want an orderly WC where best couple of teams make final, but I have a feeling there could be chaos in deciding who makes finals, and that is fun to me!
And although I am a one eyed AB supporter, and will be cheering them on at every stage, if they win it or lose it while giving me pleasure, isn't going to effect my life. I am no matter what. The team is the one doing it, not me.
Bit like what @mariner4life talked about with some Crusader's supporters.@Dan54 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
If you only watch the WC because you want or expect the ABs to win, I think you should perhaps find something to follow that's not a sport.
I am honestly looking forward to this one more than almost any I can think of.
We got a WC where I honestly have no idea who will win, and though the draw has been f***ed up in my opinion, there will be at least 2 of the top 4 teams in world won't make it past QF stage. I know some want an orderly WC where best couple of teams make final, but I have a feeling there could be chaos in deciding who makes finals, and that is fun to me!
And although I am a one eyed AB supporter, and will be cheering them on at every stage, if they win it or lose it while giving me pleasure, isn't going to effect my life. I am no matter what. The team is the one doing it, not me.
Bit like what @mariner4life talked about with some Crusader's supporters.Thanks for your opinion about how I should feel and think. Even if it wasn't requested
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@Dan54 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
If you only watch the WC because you want or expect the ABs to win, I think you should perhaps find something to follow that's not a sport.
I am honestly looking forward to this one more than almost any I can think of.
We got a WC where I honestly have no idea who will win, and though the draw has been f***ed up in my opinion, there will be at least 2 of the top 4 teams in world won't make it past QF stage. I know some want an orderly WC where best couple of teams make final, but I have a feeling there could be chaos in deciding who makes finals, and that is fun to me!
And although I am a one eyed AB supporter, and will be cheering them on at every stage, if they win it or lose it while giving me pleasure, isn't going to effect my life. I am no matter what. The team is the one doing it, not me.
Bit like what @mariner4life talked about with some Crusader's supporters.Thanks for your opinion about how I should feel and think. Even if it wasn't requested
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@Dan54 said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@dogmeat said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
You can tell everyone is nervous about this game.
This thread is a tough read
I feel less enthusiastic about the start of this RWC as any one. Ever. Another thing Fozzie has taken from me. fluffybunny
If you only watch the WC because you want or expect the ABs to win, I think you should perhaps find something to follow that's not a sport.
I am honestly looking forward to this one more than almost any I can think of.
We got a WC where I honestly have no idea who will win, and though the draw has been f***ed up in my opinion, there will be at least 2 of the top 4 teams in world won't make it past QF stage. I know some want an orderly WC where best couple of teams make final, but I have a feeling there could be chaos in deciding who makes finals, and that is fun to me!
And although I am a one eyed AB supporter, and will be cheering them on at every stage, if they win it or lose it while giving me pleasure, isn't going to effect my life. I am no matter what. The team is the one doing it, not me.
Bit like what @mariner4life talked about with some Crusader's supporters.Thanks for your opinion about how I should feel and think. Even if it wasn't requested
That's ok I worry for people who get their minds tied up over unimportant things! I like everyone to enjoy life and be happy. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes: It's easy, if you not enthusiastic about WC starting , don't watch is easiest way not to torture yourself!
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Was just thinking although this test will be good and important, probably in the end the 3rd-4th most important game of weekend for WC? Scotland/Boks, and Pumas/England and even Wales/Fiji both could have big ramifcations on who will get ot of their pools, while you would expect France and ABs to go through to QFs.
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France by 9 is my feel. We could play well and lose, and it entirely not be anyone's fault. I can see a world where the game ends, and we discuss missing Lomax and BBBR because Laulala and Va'ai were just quite a big drop. Likewise people saying, man we missed Barrett's carrying in the midfield, and Frizell's near the ruck. The four I have mentioned all have shown inherent qualities, particularly this year, that their replacements can't offer... and despite impassioned arguments, I don't think we can legitimately say there are replacements for any of those players who are close to the same standard.
As long as we don't get flogged playing the way we did v the Boks (which we won't), losing this won't warrant a meltdown - but I suspect we will get one.
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France by 9 is my feel. We could play well and lose, and it entirely not be anyone's fault. I can see a world where the game ends, and we discuss missing Lomax and BBBR because Laulala and Va'ai were just quite a big drop. Likewise people saying, man we missed Barrett's carrying in the midfield, and Frizell's near the ruck. The four I have mentioned all have shown inherent qualities, particularly this year, that their replacements can't offer... and despite impassioned arguments, I don't think we can legitimately say there are replacements for any of those players who are close to the same standard.
As long as we don't get flogged playing the way we did v the Boks (which we won't), losing this won't warrant a meltdown - but I suspect we will get one.
@frugby I'd agree with all of that, it's a real pity that Lomax, BBR, Frizzel and JB are all out at the same time as they're the guys that can carry the ball into heavy contact and make a dent in the line.
Metaphorically speaking It feels like we're trying to siege a city without a battering ram.
If the above 4 are all back and fit by the 1/4's then we have a good a chance as any of progressing through.
I'm putting my hopes on the French getting overwhelmed by the occasion and playing unstructured rugby, the less set piece battle more unstructured the game is the better for us.
Regardless I'm a little apathetic about the game, mainly because we have a lot of good players out who will certainly make a difference to the team when they come back and realistically it doesn't really matter what happens in the pool play, it's the 1/4's on that matter.
I expect the French to win, will be pleasantly surprised if we win and will be nervously watching the injury list the closer we get to the 1/4s.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan well just think back to the tough times c 2011-2015 when our top teams were as predictable as the results...people moaned then too.
I've just never felt such a lack of investment as I do now. Maybe I'm just getting older...
@canefan said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@canefan well just think back to the tough times c 2011-2015 when our top teams were as predictable as the results...people moaned then too.
I've just never felt such a lack of investment as I do now. Maybe I'm just getting older...
Characters help.
McCaw, Kaino, Carter, Smiths. A whole lot of qualities from interesting people.
Recently there's a tendency to media trained bland wokeness that fans have trouble hanging their hat on.
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@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Christie is an excellent defender, particularly cover defence, if he can get his decision making and clearance back to what he showed when he first made the ABs then he isnt a concern.
He's gone backwards this year a fair way in that department. Never the quickest of players but was pretty solid in Tests last year coming on a replacement.
@Victor-Meldrew said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in RWC: France v All Blacks:
Christie is an excellent defender, particularly cover defence, if he can get his decision making and clearance back to what he showed when he first made the ABs then he isnt a concern.
He's gone backwards this year a fair way in that department. Never the quickest of players but was pretty solid in Tests last year coming on a replacement.
This seems the case with everybody over the last few years. I honestly can't think of anyone who has consistently improved.
