RWC Week 1: England v Argentina
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@Catogrande yeah it's pretty clear - why was he going in so high? If he wants to smoke the catcher, get low and blast through at waist height. If that's not his intention, then he needs to stop and assess what happens once the player lands. This is exactly the incident type that needs to be removed from the game and it's so easily resolved, players shouldn't be let off for something so easy to get right.
I’m mostly in agreement with you, certainly about the avoidability of it all. However I just don’t think it was that bad. The interesting thing now, as I said, Will be what the fallout will be. It seems to be a bit random. Barrett leads with his shoulder, with force, to clear a ruck and no further sanction. Not sure what happened to Fagerson for the same offence, etc.
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I’m mostly in agreement with you, certainly about the avoidability of it all. However I just don’t think it was that bad. The interesting thing now, as I said, Will be what the fallout will be. It seems to be a bit random. Barrett leads with his shoulder, with force, to clear a ruck and no further sanction. Not sure what happened to Fagerson for the same offence, etc.
@Catogrande I thought it was pretty bad. Not the worst, he wasn't flying in at 100mph, and it wasn't a cheap shot. But it was still a pretty impactful collision, direct head to head, and 100% Curry's fault. We've all seen a lot worse, but it's still the kind of tackle that could put Mallia out for a week or 3 with concussion (not to mention Curry himself).
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How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.
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I’m mostly in agreement with you, certainly about the avoidability of it all. However I just don’t think it was that bad. The interesting thing now, as I said, Will be what the fallout will be. It seems to be a bit random. Barrett leads with his shoulder, with force, to clear a ruck and no further sanction. Not sure what happened to Fagerson for the same offence, etc.
@Catogrande well if a head on head contact with force (enough to cause decent damage), that's 100% the tackler's fault and easily avoidable isn't "that bad" , then what is?
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@Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v Argentina:
YC for a complete accident. Even my daughter said so.
I hope you explained to her that it doesn't need to be deliberate to deserve a red
@GibbonRib said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@Billy-Tell said in RWC: England v Argentina:
YC for a complete accident. Even my daughter said so.
I hope you explained to her that it doesn't need to be deliberate to deserve a red
The ball receiver has all the rights, it's not that difficult
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@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.
@Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.
Sad since '53, it's understandable
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Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...
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Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...
@mantissanet said in RWC: England v Argentina:
Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...
For both sides
Raynal was no better or worse than he normally is and no decision was big enough to ‘rob’ the other team of a win
Argentina deservedly lost the match and it was a brilliant effort from a 14 man England
If Borthwick picks the right team for each match there’s no reason England can’t get to a SF
And as 2019 showed anything can happen then
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Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...
@mantissanet said in RWC: England v Argentina:
Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...
No different to any other rugby match.
Whole game is a lottery, which is why many people are switching it off.
Score line reflected the match.
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@Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.
Sad since '53, it's understandable
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.
Sad since '53, it's understandable
Especially if you’ve been there
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@BerniesCorner said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.
Sad since '53, it's understandable
Especially if you’ve been there
@Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@BerniesCorner said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@Smuts said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@MiketheSnow said in RWC: England v Argentina:
How delicious would it be after that performance for England to lose to both Japan and Samoa?
You’re so beautifully bloody Welsh.
Sad since '53, it's understandable
Especially if you’ve been there
I’m not that old
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@KiwiPie said in RWC: England v Argentina:
Stolen from Twitter - but it was my own tweet I stole from.
Everyone: You don't win World Cup games with drop goals any more.
George Ford: Hold my Jannie de Beer
Gonna use that!
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@mantissanet said in RWC: England v Argentina:
Not a single person thinking that Raynal had a shocker? I find that very odd especially as a neutral... I honestly thought his performance was dire. Not saying Argentina deserve to win. Too many upcoming games to rewatch the match... But if you do you bother to, just watch all those breakdown penalties... It’s a fukkin lottery out there...
No different to any other rugby match.
Whole game is a lottery, which is why many people are switching it off.
Score line reflected the match.
@MajorRage Pretty different in my book. Not even 7030... Just Dire. Raynal is either inept or bought…
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I thought the ref was appalling, and the Poms played to his 'interpretations' better: that interpretation largely being that tacklers actually don't need to release the ball carrier.
There's nobody to blame but yourselves when you lose that badly to a 14 man team though. -
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@NTA That's generally how games are won...
@Catogrande said in RWC: England v Argentina:
@NTA That's generally how games are won...
I just hope any draws are decided by number of tries scored
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Fucking class display from the English though, completely shutting Argentina down after the early red was very impressive. If they play like that they'll give anyone a run. Very hard to break down and the way Ford is striking it he becomes a real threat come the knock out stages.
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@Machpants said in RWC Week 1: England v Argentina:
I applaud. Stops said English fans going out during the match and blocking the view.
