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2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches

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  • DodgeD Dodge

    @mariner4life this is such a great, and depressing, post.

    I would add an additional problem, that test cricket is dying in every nation outside of the Money 3. Its being downgraded in importance by boards who aren't allowing schedules to reflect the physical stress it results in, they're increasingly scheduling 2 game series if they're scheduling them at all. The ECB fucked over the Ashes by playing it in a very short window finishing before August so they could play the God awful 100 in the school holidays.

    I really worry about the future of test cricket. I really worry about the money being hoarded by 3 nations, I really worry that India in the form of the BCCI are a terrible protector of the game going forward.

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    @Dodge you only need to look at the Test Championship ladder for this latest iteration

    22 tests for England, 19 for Australia, 18 for India.
    NZ played 13

    For the next iteration, guess what?
    England 22, Aus and India 19

    We're the big winners, jumping to 14
    South Africa the bog losers, dropping from 15 to 12

    Oh look, in those numbers all of India, England and Australia will play 5 tests against each other. Everyone else can basically go fuck themselves.

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    • nzzpN nzzp

      @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

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      @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

      @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

      Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

        @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

        Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

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        @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

        @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

        @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

        Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

        Same.

        But ODI was my gateway drug

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

          @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

          Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

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          @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

          @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

          @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

          Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

          ODIs used to be awesome though. What has happened ?

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          • MN5M MN5

            @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

            @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

            @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

            Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

            ODIs used to be awesome though. What has happened ?

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            @MN5 said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

            @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

            @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

            @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

            Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

            ODIs used to be awesome though. What has happened ?

            Millennials

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @MN5 said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

              @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

              @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

              @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

              Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

              ODIs used to be awesome though. What has happened ?

              Millennials

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              @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

              @MN5 said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

              @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

              @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

              @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

              Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

              ODIs used to be awesome though. What has happened ?

              Millennials

              wait till it gets shortened to fit a tik tok vid

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              • MN5M MN5

                @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

                Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

                ODIs used to be awesome though. What has happened ?

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                @MN5 said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                @antipodean said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                @nzzp said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                @barbarian thanks fella, interesting. ODI cricket has fallen away. It's a pity - was my gateway drug to the good stuff that is Tests. T20 is almost a different game these days. I do wonder if we'll see a split in players being 'Test' or 'T20' - where the skills are sufficiently different to justify different teams.

                Showing my age no doubt, but for me it goes Tests -> ODI and then not fucking interested.

                ODIs used to be awesome though. What has happened ?

                was thnking about this just before.

                T20 dominates basically. ODI leagues get shunted to the edge of summer, adjacent to Plunket/4day cricket. As a format it's not as useful to marketers, doesn't get the spectators, and a bad game is over too quickly. And yeah, it goes too long for 'modern' audiences.

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                • BonesB Online
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                  Hold the phone

                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2023/11/20/breaking-icc-announce-world-cup-final-to-be-best-of-three-following-indias-loss-bcci-complaint/

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                    It's also worth noting that until the last decade or so ODIs used to have great run chasess where the drama would slowly build.

                    Now with T20s changing the skillsets of players a high drama ODI chase is rare.

                    How many games of the 48 game CWC truly went down to the wire? A handful?

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                    • nzzpN Offline
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                      ODI aren't bad, but they and T20 are just so forgettable.

                      I can remember things from Test series, particularly moments and narratives, but I just struggle to remember anything about any T20 or ODI that isn't a world cup match

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                        Wait. India and Australia are playing a white-ball series starting tomorrow? That is hilarious.

                        Sums it up (partly) why I valued the cricket world cup as only being worth, of my time and money, as much as free 5-minute highlights per match on TVNZ+. Which, I admit, I even stopped watching those half way through the tournament.

                        Actually. Maybe I'm just old and jaded .....

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                        • RapidoR Rapido

                          Wait. India and Australia are playing a white-ball series starting tomorrow? That is hilarious.

                          Sums it up (partly) why I valued the cricket world cup as only being worth, of my time and money, as much as free 5-minute highlights per match on TVNZ+. Which, I admit, I even stopped watching those half way through the tournament.

                          Actually. Maybe I'm just old and jaded .....

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                          @Rapido I am definitely old and jaded.

                          The only interesting thing is how the Aussies left from CWC perform afte a 5-day bender.

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                            @Rapido I am definitely old and jaded.

                            The only interesting thing is how the Aussies left from CWC perform afte a 5-day bender.

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                            @NTA said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                            @Rapido I am definitely old and jaded.

                            Maybe that is it, but the disillusionment by a whole load of sports mad Polish chicks on here is apparent. First huge amounts of discussion about rugby, a sport that most of us truly loved, and now cricket as well, it seems. Both sports being ruined by administrations that don't seem to care, one through laws and officiating and the other through greed and selfishness.

                            I even considered cancelling my Sky sport subscription yesterday. Sigh.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              It's also worth noting that until the last decade or so ODIs used to have great run chasess where the drama would slowly build.

                              Now with T20s changing the skillsets of players a high drama ODI chase is rare.

                              How many games of the 48 game CWC truly went down to the wire? A handful?

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                              @KiwiMurph said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                              It's also worth noting that until the last decade or so ODIs used to have great run chasess where the drama would slowly build.

                              Now with T20s changing the skillsets of players a high drama ODI chase is rare.

                              How many games of the 48 game CWC truly went down to the wire? A handful?

                              This sums up my thoughts so well.

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                                Interesting insight from Ravi Ashwin on the Oz bowling tactics in the Final.

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                                • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                  Interesting insight from Ravi Ashwin on the Oz bowling tactics in the Final.

                                  405506801_913501460137571_2892708438168834699_n.jpg

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                                  @Donsteppa plus him not getting picked... Interesting call

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    Annnnnd Afghanistan take choke of the year award by a country mile

                                    Actually that's at least the millennium.

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                                    Also:

                                    @Bones said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                                    Annnnnd Afghanistan take choke of the year award by a country mile

                                    Actually that's at least the millennium.

                                    Still funny.

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                                      Also:

                                      @Bones said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                                      Annnnnd Afghanistan take choke of the year award by a country mile

                                      Actually that's at least the millennium.

                                      Still funny.

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                                      @NTA said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                                      Also:

                                      @Bones said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                                      Annnnnd Afghanistan take choke of the year award by a country mile

                                      Actually that's at least the millennium.

                                      Still funny.

                                      Can you have a proper choke when there are two teams involved? What the opponent does has an influence too. In this case the big show (off).

                                      So it could be an all-time title for Greg Norman (last millennium, but whatever).

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                                      • NTAN NTA

                                        Also:

                                        @Bones said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                                        Annnnnd Afghanistan take choke of the year award by a country mile

                                        Actually that's at least the millennium.

                                        Still funny.

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                                        @NTA said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                                        Also:

                                        @Bones said in 2023 Cricket World Cup - Other Matches:

                                        Annnnnd Afghanistan take choke of the year award by a country mile

                                        Actually that's at least the millennium.

                                        Still funny.

                                        How awesome were Australia that day. So good. So so good.

                                        Imagine wanting to go back and find a comment not saying how awesome Australia were that day when they've just won the world cup so you can have a wee cry . Bizarre.

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                                          https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGzyIBrF5vSRusE/giphy.gif

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