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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • D DaGrubster

    @stodders
    It will be Wayne Barnes won’t it? He has never reffed a final.

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    @DaGrubster said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

    @stodders
    It will be Wayne Barnes won’t it? He has never reffed a final.

    I did not know that. He's so highly regarded by the reffing panel, he would be better than Raynal

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      Going to this

      This will be my first neutral test match live (as in I have no dog in the fight)

      Was really hoping we'd be there but alas no

      I will be cheering for Argentina though as mentioned earlier - support the team which put you out

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      @MiketheSnow

      That’s fair enough, as a neutral I always back the underdog.

      Perhaps it is being from NZ that we always do that as we are so often the underdog in lots of sporting contests.

      One thing though, don’t you dare show your smug face around here if your Argentina win on Friday! 😉

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        @DaGrubster said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        @stodders
        It will be Wayne Barnes won’t it? He has never reffed a final.

        I did not know that. He's so highly regarded by the reffing panel, he would be better than Raynal

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        @canefan

        I think 2019 would have been one he was in contention to ref but England stopped that.

        Raynal is a good shout tbf, and may be an emotional one due to France hosting and knocked out early.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          Jesus, we had what? Two days of celebrating a really good AB win and now we're just back to another Foster whinge-athon. :man_facepalming_medium-dark_skin_tone:

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          @Nepia said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          Jesus, we had what? Two days of celebrating a really good AB win and now we're just back to another Foster whinge-athon. :man_facepalming_medium-dark_skin_tone:

          Yep Nepia, almost as if some posters were disappointed we didn't lose that so they could get stuck into him again.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @Joans-Town-Jones said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @frugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            Will it change how we reflect on Foster?

            not for me, i dont view the RWC like some, his role in making watching the AB so much less enjoyable over the last four years isn't outweighed by winning it.

            Whether he wins or not, the Irish series, the hidings to France, SA and Argentina are inexcusable. I congratulate Foster for getting the job done to date in the RWC but a RWC win doesn't erase 4 years of pain. There are some records in there that will never get back.

            i actually dont like him as a person from what i see in the press conferences etc...he actually seems bloody smug and unapologetic...would happy give everything away to win the RWC and think thats fine

            I think Foster seems considerably more likable than Hansen ever was.

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            Foster is far more open with the press than Hansen ever was. I appreciate that style of Foz. Just different personalities I guess but Foz is a lot more open.

            Hansen was always like an AB coach in the 1970’s. Tightlipped and dismissive of the media

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            • allblacksfan2A allblacksfan2

              @mariner4life They need to suffer, I live in Oz and all my Wallaby supporting colleagues (and a few Aussie non rugby work mates ) supported Ireland on the weekend...and are now barracking for Argentina. My Bok colleagues have always had the ABs as their second team in the RC. And them and the SA's at the dog park are far better losers than the Aussi dog owners are, geez they get dirty when they lose to us. And far more lippy with their gibes pre an ABs game no matter who we are playing. Let them all suffer in their budgie smugglers.

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              @allblackfan2 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

              @mariner4life They need to suffer, I live in Oz and all my Wallaby supporting colleagues (and a few Aussie non rugby work mates ) supported Ireland on the weekend...and are now barracking for Argentina. My Bok colleagues have always had the ABs as their second team in the RC. And them and the SA's at the dog park are far better losers than the Aussi dog owners are, geez they get dirty when they lose to us. And far more lippy with their gibes pre an ABs game no matter who we are playing. Let them all suffer in their budgie smugglers.

              Seems you copping similar experience to a lot of mine (with a few exceptions) while I lived there mate. But I have always said over my lifetime (and well before I lived in Oz) the supporters I most enjoyed discussing rugby with were Saffas and Welsh.
              Saying that I suspect there is a reasonable number of so called AB 'supporters' in Oz too, I met a few that I wouldn't bother drinking with, usually ones that put on AB jersey when there a test on, but really didn't have a clue except what they read on the internet etc.

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              • D DaGrubster

                @MN5

                Foster is far more open with the press than Hansen ever was. I appreciate that style of Foz. Just different personalities I guess but Foz is a lot more open.

                Hansen was always like an AB coach in the 1970’s. Tightlipped and dismissive of the media

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                @DaGrubster said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                @MN5

                Foster is far more open with the press than Hansen ever was. I appreciate that style of Foz. Just different personalities I guess but Foz is a lot more open.

                Hansen was always like an AB coach in the 1970’s. Tightlipped and dismissive of the media

                Have no problems with any of them, know Foster not really all that keen on press stuff, know he has to do match day stuff etc and Ryan does more than him anyway outside of that.

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                • D DaGrubster

                  @stodders
                  It will be Wayne Barnes won’t it? He has never reffed a final.

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                  @DaGrubster said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                  @stodders
                  It will be Wayne Barnes won’t it? He has never reffed a final.

                  Provided Poms don't upset the Boks you would think it would be Barnes' final.

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @Nepia said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    Jesus, we had what? Two days of celebrating a really good AB win and now we're just back to another Foster whinge-athon. :man_facepalming_medium-dark_skin_tone:

                    Yep Nepia, almost as if some posters were disappointed we didn't lose that so they could get stuck into him again.

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                    @Dan54

                    I don’t think they were dissapointed but there was plenty who were giving it to Foz before the game and how pleased they were that this was his last week.

                    It was embarrassing to see people writing off the All Blacks before they face Ireland.

                    It’s like they didn’t understand the traits, values and hallmarks of All Black rugby that created the All Black legacy in the first place!

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                    • D DaGrubster

                      @Dan54

                      I don’t think they were dissapointed but there was plenty who were giving it to Foz before the game and how pleased they were that this was his last week.

                      It was embarrassing to see people writing off the All Blacks before they face Ireland.

                      It’s like they didn’t understand the traits, values and hallmarks of All Black rugby that created the All Black legacy in the first place!

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                      @DaGrubster exactly, you wonder if they actually understand what the whole All Black thing is!

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                        This is the same legacy that foster has been systematically dismantling since his appointment? There are many reasons none of us trust fosters ABs see the fosters first thread

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                          They’ve announced when the team is being named. https://twitter.com/allblacks/status/1714375292620538101

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                          • Dan54D Dan54

                            @DaGrubster exactly, you wonder if they actually understand what the whole All Black thing is!

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                            @Dan54

                            Mate, I was as calm as a bhuddist monk in meditation school, seconds before kick off.

                            I was confident all week and knew we had that performance in us.

                            Of course, During the game I was screaming my head off downstairs and Chloe came down to check on me a couple of times!! But I knew we were not fucking around or losing that game.

                            I’m keen to see how we lift ourselves for the semi as we have seen we can be inconsistent snd we struggled to lift ourselves again in 2019 from qtr to semi.

                            With the adversity we have gone through since 2019, I am not worried that this side will take anything for granted or be complacent about what they need to bring to the semi.

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                            • M Machpants

                              This is the same legacy that foster has been systematically dismantling since his appointment? There are many reasons none of us trust fosters ABs see the fosters first thread

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                              @Machpants

                              The All Black legacy pre dates Coach Foster by 120 years. He wasn’t even born when the AB legacy was being formed!

                              Not even Foster can destroy that. 🤞

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                                Come on Foz you got this

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                                • M Machpants

                                  This is the same legacy that foster has been systematically dismantling since his appointment? There are many reasons none of us trust fosters ABs see the fosters first thread

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                                  @Machpants said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                  This is the same legacy that foster has been systematically dismantling since his appointment? There are many reasons none of us trust fosters ABs see the fosters first thread

                                  That just shows you have no idea of the All Blacks legacy. It as @DaGrubster built on 120 years, and I would suggest it built on teams AND supporters, and I would say Foster (or any coach or player) can no more destroy said legacy than can so called fans/supporters can in a few years. Since I have followed the ABs in very late 1950s I have seen a few coaches/players that perhaps (like Foster) I wondered if they were best man for job, but have never once thought I was the one to know more than the ones who appoint (or select players) and ever thought they were doing anything but their best to uphold the AB legacy you speak of.

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                                    Come on Foz you got this

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                                    @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                    Come on Foz you got this

                                    Yep Bernie, much more come on the players you got this I think. Foz isn't playing. But understand your point.

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                                    • sparkyS sparky

                                      They’ve announced when the team is being named. https://twitter.com/allblacks/status/1714375292620538101

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                                      @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      They’ve announced when the team is being named. https://twitter.com/allblacks/status/1714375292620538101

                                      So is it widely accepted that the only change to the 23 will be a straight swap, Telea for Fainga'anuku?

                                      Possible perhaps Fainga'anuku drops to the bench, because ALB did sub on at left wing in the end.

                                      Other possibility is Roigard on the bench by the horses for courses argument, but I can't see it, and I doubt there will be any other changes. The team who was good enough to beat the World Number One is the one to go for, outside of Telea, that was out best 23.

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                                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        Come on Foz you got this

                                        Yep Bernie, much more come on the players you got this I think. Foz isn't playing. But understand your point.

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                                        @Dan54 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        Come on Foz you got this

                                        Yep Bernie, much more come on the players you got this I think. Foz isn't playing. But understand your point.

                                        It's time to move on.
                                        If we win this it will be our greatest achievement

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                                        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                          @Dan54 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          @BerniesCorner said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          Come on Foz you got this

                                          Yep Bernie, much more come on the players you got this I think. Foz isn't playing. But understand your point.

                                          It's time to move on.
                                          If we win this it will be our greatest achievement

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                                          @BerniesCorner would that make Foster the greatest coach?

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