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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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    with at most 160mins of rugby in the Black jersey left im wondering if theyre just going to let smith run and they know there will be less questions about having left Christine on the bench than if the young gun Roigard wasn't used...let Roigard have his moment in the sun next year

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      Everyone relax. Stuart Barnes thinks we're in trouble. Pretty much every time this sour, misguided midget predicts our downfall we romp home.

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      @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      Everyone relax. Stuart Barnes thinks we're in trouble. Pretty much every time this sour, misguided midget predicts our downfall we romp home.

      This Stuart?

      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300904034/english-rugby-scribe-stuart-barnes-downplays-all-blacks-world-cup-hopes

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

        Everyone relax. Stuart Barnes thinks we're in trouble. Pretty much every time this sour, misguided midget predicts our downfall we romp home.

        This Stuart?

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/300904034/english-rugby-scribe-stuart-barnes-downplays-all-blacks-world-cup-hopes

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        @Chris-B yeah this guy

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Chris-B yeah this guy

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          @mariner4life he must do alright at the roulette table though, always betting against black!

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            @Chris-B yeah this guy

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            @mariner4life said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @Chris-B yeah this guy

            😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @mariner4life he must do alright at the roulette table though, always betting against black!

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              @taniwharugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

              @mariner4life he must do alright at the roulette table though, always betting against black!

              He's normally very gushy about the ABs, and also correct in this point. He's also correct that the level of game in NH club rugby is much more intense than SR. If the Puma throw everything at the ABs, and get ahead whilst messing up/frustrating them, these ABs are more than likely to 'freeze'. He also says that England have a better chance of an upset, so doesn't actually think Arg are in with a realistic chance.

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                On Christie - when they say he has an edge on defense, I assume they mean his ability to organise the defense around the fringes, like what Smith was doing against Ireland. They probably had some concerns there with Roigard being so young and the likelyhood of us being attacked in those channels, so went for a more experienced head. The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  On Christie - when they say he has an edge on defense, I assume they mean his ability to organise the defense around the fringes, like what Smith was doing against Ireland. They probably had some concerns there with Roigard being so young and the likelyhood of us being attacked in those channels, so went for a more experienced head. The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

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                  @No-Quarter said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                  The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

                  I think your first bit is right - but not the bit quoted.

                  The last game was the first since the 2015 semifinal than AS has started and not been subbed.

                  They usually pull him around 60-65 minutes.

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                    @No-Quarter said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

                    I think your first bit is right - but not the bit quoted.

                    The last game was the first since the 2015 semifinal than AS has started and not been subbed.

                    They usually pull him around 60-65 minutes.

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                    @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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                      @Kiwiwomble I'll be very surprised. AS got a 20 minute rest around halftime so was able to play the last 30 minutes of the last game.

                      It was pretty noticeable vs the Boks earlier this season that they started getting to Aaron just before he got subbed.

                      While on the topic, your logic on Christie's selection further above is also bit sketchy - what if Smith gets injured in the first minute? I don't think they'd want 79 minutes of their third choice halfback. 🙂

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                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                        @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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                        @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

                        Adrenaline must be greater than ever, surely.

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                          @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

                          Adrenaline must be greater than ever, surely.

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                          @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

                          Adrenaline must be greater than ever, surely.

                          world cup semi final and possibly his last game for the AB's...you bet

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                            All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

                            “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

                            Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

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                              Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

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                              @His-Bobness said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                              Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

                              Roigard screwing the crew?

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                                Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

                                They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

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                                  All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

                                  “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

                                  Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

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                                  @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                  All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

                                  “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

                                  Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

                                  One of the most humbling days as an England rugby fan. We actually played quite well, but he destroyed us, it’s a weird feeling watching your team get taken apart and falling in love with one of the opposition players at the same time. Comfortably my favourite ever rugby player, from any nation.

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                                    Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

                                    They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

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                                    @frugby did you see Smith against Ireland? Shocking start. Can't believe we picked him again.

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                                      @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

                                      “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

                                      Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

                                      One of the most humbling days as an England rugby fan. We actually played quite well, but he destroyed us, it’s a weird feeling watching your team get taken apart and falling in love with one of the opposition players at the same time. Comfortably my favourite ever rugby player, from any nation.

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                                      @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                                      Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                                      Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

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                                        Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                                          Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                                          @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

                                          I also have the ABs by 12…….after 15 minutes!

                                          Up 25 at the half, and 30+ at FT (I’m allowing for a drop-off after we empty the bench)

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