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RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina

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  • No QuarterN No Quarter

    On Christie - when they say he has an edge on defense, I assume they mean his ability to organise the defense around the fringes, like what Smith was doing against Ireland. They probably had some concerns there with Roigard being so young and the likelyhood of us being attacked in those channels, so went for a more experienced head. The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

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    @No-Quarter said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

    The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

    I think your first bit is right - but not the bit quoted.

    The last game was the first since the 2015 semifinal than AS has started and not been subbed.

    They usually pull him around 60-65 minutes.

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      @No-Quarter said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

      The plan is to play Smith for 80 though, unless the game this weekend gets beyond doubt.

      I think your first bit is right - but not the bit quoted.

      The last game was the first since the 2015 semifinal than AS has started and not been subbed.

      They usually pull him around 60-65 minutes.

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      @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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        @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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        @Kiwiwomble I'll be very surprised. AS got a 20 minute rest around halftime so was able to play the last 30 minutes of the last game.

        It was pretty noticeable vs the Boks earlier this season that they started getting to Aaron just before he got subbed.

        While on the topic, your logic on Christie's selection further above is also bit sketchy - what if Smith gets injured in the first minute? I don't think they'd want 79 minutes of their third choice halfback. 🙂

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        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

          @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

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          @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

          @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

          Adrenaline must be greater than ever, surely.

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            @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

            Adrenaline must be greater than ever, surely.

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            @frugby said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @Kiwiwomble said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

            @Chris-B but world cup knockout games arnet "usual", i also think if it is at all close then he does 80

            Adrenaline must be greater than ever, surely.

            world cup semi final and possibly his last game for the AB's...you bet

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              All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

              “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

              Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

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              • His BobnessH His Bobness

                Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

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                @His-Bobness said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                Why are they sticking with Christie? It seems odd.

                Roigard screwing the crew?

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                  Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

                  They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

                    “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

                    Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

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                    @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                    All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

                    “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

                    Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

                    One of the most humbling days as an England rugby fan. We actually played quite well, but he destroyed us, it’s a weird feeling watching your team get taken apart and falling in love with one of the opposition players at the same time. Comfortably my favourite ever rugby player, from any nation.

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                    • frugbyF frugby

                      Anybody who wants to know why they aren't playing Roigard, go watch the game vs Uruguay with no pre-conceived bias. I am not saying I agree with the decision, but some of his distribution was a little untidy, and it has cost them.

                      They were absolutely planning on having him on the bench, it would be illogical to give him those two starts, plus the bench position against Italy (when the heat was on), if they were planning on Christie being on the bench. They would have given Christie a start vs Uruguay.

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                      @frugby did you see Smith against Ireland? Shocking start. Can't believe we picked him again.

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                      • DodgeD Dodge

                        @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                        All Blacks World Cup Semi Final day. That will always make me think of this.

                        “Brothers, what we do in life echoes in eternity.”

                        Rest well, Jonah, and thank you.

                        One of the most humbling days as an England rugby fan. We actually played quite well, but he destroyed us, it’s a weird feeling watching your team get taken apart and falling in love with one of the opposition players at the same time. Comfortably my favourite ever rugby player, from any nation.

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                        @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                        Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                        Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

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                          Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                            Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                            @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                            Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

                            I also have the ABs by 12…….after 15 minutes!

                            Up 25 at the half, and 30+ at FT (I’m allowing for a drop-off after we empty the bench)

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                              Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.

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                                Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                                @Tim Friday night in France, right?

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @stodders What those tables might show is that it's been quite a late decision to back the young props on the bench - Williams especially played a lot less minutes than Ofa, which you wouldn't expect if they'd been building Tamaiti to play in the play-offs.

                                  Similarly, it looks to me that they've made a late decision to revert back to Christie.

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                                  @Chris-B said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                  @stodders What those tables might show is that it's been quite a late decision to back the young props on the bench - Williams especially played a lot less minutes than Ofa, which you wouldn't expect if they'd been building Tamaiti to play in the play-offs.

                                  Similarly, it looks to me that they've made a late decision to revert back to Christie.

                                  Don't let the Hawkes posters know, all that dry powder will be consumed before the game.

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                                  • Jailbreak7J Jailbreak7

                                    Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.

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                                    @Jailbreak7 said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                    Can we get Sam to be laser focused and pumped with that thousand yard stare of last week please.

                                    Save that until the final

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

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                                      @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                      Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

                                      Grey and dry as I type

                                      11:15am

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                                        Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                                        Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

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                                        @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                                        Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                                        Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

                                        @sparky said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                        @Dodge Almost everyone forgets how good that 1995 England team were. They had an absolute superb forward pack.

                                        Jack Rowell’s England won 22 out of 29 games. They won the 1995 Five Nations at an absolute canter.

                                        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Five_Nations_Championship

                                        Laurie Mains spotted a defence weakness in the England back three which Jonah Lomu dazzlingly exposed.

                                        I thought Leprechauns were Irish

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @Tim said in RWC SF: All Blacks v Argentina:

                                          Supposed to rain on Saturday night. I expect Argentina to commit heavily to the breakdown and try to turn the game into an arm wrestle. ABs by 12.

                                          Grey and dry as I type

                                          11:15am

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                                          @MiketheSnow Weather forecast for today and tomorrow at Stade de France.

                                          Tonight - wet with a bit of wind, but not too cold (take your rain coat Mike)

                                          Tomorrow - wet, with a fair bit of wind (3x), and a lot colder (6 degrees colder)

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