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RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks

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  • F Frank

    @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

    I don't think you understand my meaning.

    I don't mean something "exciting".

    I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

    Which I suspect is what happened against France.

    I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
    As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

    Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

    And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

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    Billy Webb
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    @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

    @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

    I don't think you understand my meaning.

    I don't mean something "exciting".

    I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

    Which I suspect is what happened against France.

    I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
    As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

    Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

    And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

    The thing with Rassie is that he stays within the laws as they stand at that time.
    He just finds ways to try and get an advantage within those rules all the time. It may not be as the rule was intended, but it is still within the rules.
    If WR doesn't like it - as in the "waterboy" scenario - then they must change the rules.
    But if he is not breaking any rules at the time, the ref can't interfere.

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    • OomPBO OomPB

      @booboo I am from Paarl BB. That place teach you to be humble before the game. No bravado from me. I have a healthy respect for the All Blacks. Its the one team I can lose to and not be very depressing after the loss except for the amount of black jerseys in town. The vibe around town is amazing, everywhere you go its about Springboks, All Blacks, WC final, exct. Something we experience like in the old days of rugby tours. Mind you a long tour after the final will be the right thing to do next year.

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      @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

      I have a healthy respect for the All Blacks. Its the one team I can lose to and not be very depressing after the loss

      This.

      I really don't like the Boks to lose.
      I would prefer if we got 4 RWC's before anyone else.

      But if someone has to beat us on both counts, I'm ok least upset with it being the ABs.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @sparky our game plan now should be SMASH FAF

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        @Canes4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

        @sparky our game plan now should be SMASH FAF

        Caleb Clarke needs to be selected on that basis alone.

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          @Canes4life said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

          @sparky our game plan now should be SMASH FAF

          Caleb Clarke needs to be selected on that basis alone.

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          @junior At Number 8.

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            #512

            Where I’m at:

            If win, bloody brilliant.

            If we lose, it won’t hurt as much as if we’d lost in 1987, 2011 or 2015. Getting to the Final in such a competitive World Cup is an amazing achievement and better than I expected.

            Going into this tournament, it felt to me like Ireland and France were the clear favourites, with the Boks, England and ourselves more like dark horses who needed a bit of luck to get over the line.

            I still think we’ll need a bit more luck.

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            • Chris B.C Chris B.

              @thelemmning70 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              Boks are betting on rain.....

              Yeah - slow the game down. Don't play wide. Kick and smother.

              I wonder if that team changes with the weather on the day?

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              @Chris-B said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              @thelemmning70 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

              Boks are betting on rain.....

              Yeah - slow the game down. Don't play wide. Kick and smother.

              I wonder if that team changes with the weather on the day?

              In which case, why take the risk of not having a specialist halfback who can kick and pass in wet conditions? Plus, you're taking your best kick-chaser out of the game by moving him to halfback, and probably also taking away your kicking game given kicking from the base is not one of his core skills.

              I just don't understand it, which makes me very worried.

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                akan004
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                #514

                Richie would be a massive loss if he's unable to recover in time. Don't feel confident at all with DMac and I don't think we can beat them if he's our 10. Damn it, things were looking so good on the injury front.

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                  Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

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                    @Crazy-Horse said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                    Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

                    Pretty sure that video was from a few weeks ago.

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                      Yeah that video was before one of the pool matches

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                      • A akan004

                        @Crazy-Horse said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                        Maybe I have forgotten what it's like to be young, but jeez it's hard to imagine RM going from limping like that to being fit to play - especially given his strength is his agility and acceleration. Looked like his kicking leg too.

                        Pretty sure that video was from a few weeks ago.

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                        @akan004 They are no longer in Lyon and the leaves are browner than that in the Northern Hemisphere.

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                        • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                          @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

                          I don't think you understand my meaning.

                          I don't mean something "exciting".

                          I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

                          Which I suspect is what happened against France.

                          I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
                          As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

                          Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

                          And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

                          The thing with Rassie is that he stays within the laws as they stand at that time.
                          He just finds ways to try and get an advantage within those rules all the time. It may not be as the rule was intended, but it is still within the rules.
                          If WR doesn't like it - as in the "waterboy" scenario - then they must change the rules.
                          But if he is not breaking any rules at the time, the ref can't interfere.

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                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @Billy-Webb said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @Frank said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @OomPB said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                          @Frank Rassie always produce something exciting for us. They worked since 2018 for this final. Expect the unexpected.

                          I don't think you understand my meaning.

                          I don't mean something "exciting".

                          I mean Bok forwards being pulled off by the coaching staff, pretending it is for an HIA assessment when really it is to give them a rest and bring them back on later when they are "cleared".

                          Which I suspect is what happened against France.

                          I think @OomPB understood you perfectly.
                          As he said - Rassie always produces something exciting for Bok fans 😉

                          Will be exciting if Wayne Barnes punishes them for it on the pitch. But I guess that won't happen if it is within the rules.

                          And to be fair, if our coach was coming up with smart moves, I'd probably be right behind him.

                          The thing with Rassie is that he stays within the laws as they stand at that time.
                          He just finds ways to try and get an advantage within those rules all the time. It may not be as the rule was intended, but it is still within the rules.
                          If WR doesn't like it - as in the "waterboy" scenario - then they must change the rules.
                          But if he is not breaking any rules at the time, the ref can't interfere.

                          You think it’s not against the rules to fake HIAs?

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            Is Stephen Donald in France at the moment ?

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                            @MN5 said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                            Is Stephen Donald in France at the moment ?

                            You must have me on mute. Don’t blame you.

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              Where I’m at:

                              If win, bloody brilliant.

                              If we lose, it won’t hurt as much as if we’d lost in 1987, 2011 or 2015. Getting to the Final in such a competitive World Cup is an amazing achievement and better than I expected.

                              Going into this tournament, it felt to me like Ireland and France were the clear favourites, with the Boks, England and ourselves more like dark horses who needed a bit of luck to get over the line.

                              I still think we’ll need a bit more luck.

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                              @sparky said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                              Where I’m at:

                              If win, bloody brilliant.

                              If we lose, it won’t hurt as much as if we’d lost in 1987, 2011 or 2015. Getting to the Final in such a competitive World Cup is an amazing achievement and better than I expected.

                              Going into this tournament, it felt to me like Ireland and France were the clear favourites, with the Boks, England and ourselves more like dark horses who needed a bit of luck to get over the line.

                              I still think we’ll need a bit more luck.

                              I agree with you. Off to have a sulphuric acid shower.

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                                My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

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                                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                  My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                  My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

                                  Where’s that belt sander?

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew said in RWC Final: All Blacks v Springboks:

                                    My take: Want us to win but if SA win they'll be worthy champions and I'll applaud them.

                                    Back to back World Cups, in a highly competitive era of international Rugby, would be an enormous achievement.

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                                      For the All Blacks, winning three of the four last RWCs would also be an enormous achievement.

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                                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby-world-cup-2023/300996939/rugby-world-cup-all-blacks-poised-to-upsize-bench-unit-for-final-against-springboks

                                        Looks like BBBR to start and Sami T joining Tamaiti and Nepo on bench. They won scrum penalty at end of Mt. Smart. Want Scooter packing behind TW as much as possible.

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                                          https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1717338850144710801?s=20

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