All Blacks 2024.. locked
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
fuck I'll laugh/cry if the first part of the surf jesus revolution is to revert to BB at 10.
Why would he do that?
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
fuck I'll laugh/cry if the first part of the surf jesus revolution is to revert to BB at 10.
Why would he do that?
Experience would be the reason. Beauden has 56 tests starting at 10. DMac has single digits.
For what it's worth I dont think Razor will unless injury forces him to.
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Did Razor actually ask BB to return or is it just a typical fern sauce?
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Did Razor actually ask BB to return or is it just a typical fern sauce?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:
Did Razor actually ask BB to return or is it just a typical fern sauce?
Beauden can’t wait to pull on that Hurricanes jersey again.
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Did Razor actually ask BB to return or is it just a typical fern sauce?
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:
Did Razor actually ask BB to return or is it just a typical fern sauce?
Nothing to do with Razor, BB had a contract with Japan, that was all that was known. Beaudy's long term plans were unknown. Now the term of the contract has been made public and Beaudy has confirmed he wants to come back
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024:
Did Razor actually ask BB to return or is it just a typical fern sauce?
Nothing to do with Razor, BB had a contract with Japan, that was all that was known. Beaudy's long term plans were unknown. Now the term of the contract has been made public and Beaudy has confirmed he wants to come back
Nothing to do with Razor, BB had a contract with Japan, that was all that was known.
Appears BB's signed with NZR thru to 2027. Can't imagine that happening without Surfboard Jesus (
game_film) wanting it."New Zealand Rugby revealed on Thursday that Barrett, 32, is poised to sign a multiyear year deal through to 2027, which will make him available for the All Blacks in 2024"
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young players coming through must find it a little frustrating...patchy form currently and NZR want to lock in a 36 year old outside back?
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young players coming through must find it a little frustrating...patchy form currently and NZR want to lock in a 36 year old outside back?
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
young players coming through must find it a little frustrating...patchy form currently and NZR want to lock in a 36 year old outside back?
Kinda makes sense if Robertson wants to build on the current team (pretty successful - lost the RWC final by one point) and evolve things rather than throw everything up in the air from day one.
Then again, why want to contract BB for 4 years?
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
young players coming through must find it a little frustrating...patchy form currently and NZR want to lock in a 36 year old outside back?
Kinda makes sense if Robertson wants to build on the current team (pretty successful - lost the RWC final by one point) and evolve things rather than throw everything up in the air from day one.
Then again, why want to contract BB for 4 years?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
young players coming through must find it a little frustrating...patchy form currently and NZR want to lock in a 36 year old outside back?
Kinda makes sense if Robertson wants to build on the current team (pretty successful - lost the RWC final by one point) and evolve things rather than throw everything up in the air from day one.
Then again, why want to contract BB for 4 years?
god i hope thats not the case, was hoping for a bit of a seachange, everyone re earning their spot, just keep forster if we want more of the same
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Why wouldn't we want BB to stick around? We have been lamenting the loss of experience for years.
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Why wouldn't we want BB to stick around? We have been lamenting the loss of experience for years.
@Crazy-Horse not all of us, personally i find the obsession with experience over form frustrating
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Why wouldn't we want BB to stick around? We have been lamenting the loss of experience for years.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
Why wouldn't we want BB to stick around? We have been lamenting the loss of experience for years.
I'm happy for him to stay for experience if he's cheap (and we can retain future stars), but I've always hated losing experienced super rugby players that boost that comp up overall and don't cost the earth.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
Why wouldn't we want BB to stick around? We have been lamenting the loss of experience for years.
I'm happy for him to stay for experience if he's cheap (and we can retain future stars), but I've always hated losing experienced super rugby players that boost that comp up overall and don't cost the earth.
@JayCee said in All Blacks 2024:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
Why wouldn't we want BB to stick around? We have been lamenting the loss of experience for years.
I'm happy for him to stay for experience if he's cheap (and we can retain future stars), but I've always hated losing experienced super rugby players that boost that comp up overall and don't cost the earth.
100% this. BB running around playing Super Rugby, and being available for the ABs if required is fucking great.
Unless
He is being guaranteed a 10 or 15 jersey that stalls the development of another player in a key position. If his form warrants it, then no worries, but being picked on his reputation is an issue when we have 5 spots in the country to develop players
His salary means the NZRU can't afford to keep a guy like Finau and he ends up in France.
Who would run NZ rugby aye?
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
young players coming through must find it a little frustrating...patchy form currently and NZR want to lock in a 36 year old outside back?
Kinda makes sense if Robertson wants to build on the current team (pretty successful - lost the RWC final by one point) and evolve things rather than throw everything up in the air from day one.
Then again, why want to contract BB for 4 years?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
young players coming through must find it a little frustrating...patchy form currently and NZR want to lock in a 36 year old outside back?
Kinda makes sense if Robertson wants to build on the current team (pretty successful - lost the RWC final by one point) and evolve things rather than throw everything up in the air from day one.
Then again, why want to contract BB for 4 years?
I am looking forward to your vociferous defence of everything Razor next year.
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@JayCee said in All Blacks 2024:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
Why wouldn't we want BB to stick around? We have been lamenting the loss of experience for years.
I'm happy for him to stay for experience if he's cheap (and we can retain future stars), but I've always hated losing experienced super rugby players that boost that comp up overall and don't cost the earth.
100% this. BB running around playing Super Rugby, and being available for the ABs if required is fucking great.
Unless
He is being guaranteed a 10 or 15 jersey that stalls the development of another player in a key position. If his form warrants it, then no worries, but being picked on his reputation is an issue when we have 5 spots in the country to develop players
His salary means the NZRU can't afford to keep a guy like Finau and he ends up in France.
Who would run NZ rugby aye?
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
Unless
He is being guaranteed a 10 or 15 jersey that stalls the development of another player in a key position. If his form warrants it, then no worries, but being picked on his reputation is an issue when we have 5 spots in the country to develop players
Absolute bollocks that this would be the case.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
Unless
He is being guaranteed a 10 or 15 jersey that stalls the development of another player in a key position. If his form warrants it, then no worries, but being picked on his reputation is an issue when we have 5 spots in the country to develop players
Absolute bollocks that this would be the case.
@Frank i believe it with a lower case "g"...so not in his contract but a hand shake. As i have been reminded lots of times, the AB's arent a Representative team in the traditional sense, central contracts make them more like the club structure, we cant afford to to have loads of player contracts that arent playing
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I too wish that BB would retire but thank furk he was at 15 for the final and not Jordan.
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2024:
I too wish that BB would retire but thank furk he was at 15 for the final and not Jordan.
I will go against the grade here fellas, I am stoked that Beauden is looking at signing for NZR, the more players we have in the country, the better our depth is. Have no thoughts on whether he will or should make ABs (smarter people than me will decide that), but just love older players like him being around, I said same with Ryan Crotty and John Afoa coming home and playing. It makes our rugby better, more competition for places, more experience! Will do for me.
And to even imagine any player is guaranteed a spot is I think fantasy . -
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2024:
I too wish that BB would retire but thank furk he was at 15 for the final and not Jordan.
I will go against the grade here fellas, I am stoked that Beauden is looking at signing for NZR, the more players we have in the country, the better our depth is. Have no thoughts on whether he will or should make ABs (smarter people than me will decide that), but just love older players like him being around, I said same with Ryan Crotty and John Afoa coming home and playing. It makes our rugby better, more competition for places, more experience! Will do for me.
And to even imagine any player is guaranteed a spot is I think fantasy .@Dan54 Yep, it's great if older players can pass on their knowlegde to young up-and-comers.
I also quite liked that Crotty only accepted his new contract after making sure he wasn't blocking the pathway of a young, talented player.
I really hope that players are picked on form and not on past reputation or experience. All Blacks have always seemed undroppable and that just isn't good enough.
BB hasn't been great in black and in blue in recent years and I'd hate the thought of him potentially blocking the development of a young gun, instead helping it.
Because, by the time he retires, you don't want this ...
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
Unless
He is being guaranteed a 10 or 15 jersey that stalls the development of another player in a key position. If his form warrants it, then no worries, but being picked on his reputation is an issue when we have 5 spots in the country to develop players
Absolute bollocks that this would be the case.
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024:
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
Unless
He is being guaranteed a 10 or 15 jersey that stalls the development of another player in a key position. If his form warrants it, then no worries, but being picked on his reputation is an issue when we have 5 spots in the country to develop players
Absolute bollocks that this would be the case.
It's been the case at the Blues. On form he should not have been continued to be Blues 10 but was.
