All Blacks 2024.. locked

[sparky]

4,5 and 6 are where the cupboard looks most bare at the moment.

[cgrant]

bare cupboards IMO : 2 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 10

[Tim]

@cgrant No one at 12 other than Barrett too.

[Kiwiwomble]

@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

@Crazy-Horse not all of us, personally i find the obsession with experience over form frustrating

What if there is experience with form?

sure, ideally both, just not sure we've seen that much recently

@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

@Stargazer said in All Blacks 2024:

I really hope that players are picked on form

I'd argue they should be picked on ability.

they have to be able to deliver on that though, what they can do on the training pitch means very little if they dont bring it game day

@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

@Stargazer @Kiwiwomble

Way too early to see how Robertson's tenure will pan out, but keeping BB and other experienced players on board while developing other players is a logical approach as long as it's done right.

For me, the key thing is developing a deeper player pool than we have now for whatever game-plans the ABs have. If that means an uncomfortable loss or two in the first year or so, then so be it.

sure, that would be great, as long it is doesnt mean BB playing 65-70 min and then whom ever we're trying to build up getting 10-15 and then being discarded if they dont play like DC against the Lions

[george33]

The guy worth watching Meihana Grindlay like to see him get game time at 12 with Reiko outside him reminds me of a young Nonu

[Old Samurai Jack]

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

The guy worth watching Meihana Grindlay like to see him get game time at 12 with Reiko outside him reminds me of a young Nonu

A young Nonu wasn't a 12's arsehole.

[Canes4life]

@Bones that's because they went with the incumbent duo of PUJ and Proctor. Like Morgan, PUJ kept getting selected despite clearly not playing aswell as Higgins. (Same with Morgan/Clarke and Hauiti-Parapara/Preston)

I've talked to a few people in Petone and they've mentioned on more than one occasion that the Lions and Hurricanes don't want to rush Higgins at such a young age. My opinion on that is if he's good enough, he's old enough.

Two performances that stick out for me is when he ripped Auckland apart last year in the semi, and when he had that classy game against Canterbury earlier this year, running through both McLeod and Crotty, while setting up a couple tries.

His decision-making shits all over PUJ, and I was once a Umaga-Jensen fanboy.

[Bovidae]

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

The guy worth watching Meihana Grindlay like to see him get game time at 12 with Reiko outside him reminds me of a young Nonu

I think Grindlay is better suited to 2nd 5 as he isn't a great distributor, and hasn't been from 1st XV level. His strength is running hard and straight.

[MN5]

@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024:

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

The guy worth watching Meihana Grindlay like to see him get game time at 12 with Reiko outside him reminds me of a young Nonu

A young Nonu wasn't a 12's arsehole.

Harsh but true.

Makes his transformation even more incredible.

[george33]

@Bovidae still a young man, his skills will develop as time goes on, incredible talent already tho,and yes 12 is his future more than 13

[Kiwiwomble]

@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

The guy worth watching Meihana Grindlay like to see him get game time at 12 with Reiko outside him reminds me of a young Nonu

I think Grindlay is better suited to 2nd 5 as he isn't a great distributor, and hasn't been from 1st XV level. His strength is running hard and straight.

if im honest i dont hate those qualities if we have someone like Jordie outside him, might get some front foot ball

[george33]

Christie, Beauden, Grindlay,Reiko, Talea, Jordan,Jordie looks ok probably dreaming on Grindlay but Razzor will have few Bolters and McKenzie of the bench with Roigard and ALB

[foobaNZ]

@george33 you'd have Christie starting over Roigard next year? And Jordie back to full back?

[george33]

Yes I would at this stage, Roigard exciting prospect but he's not there yet, and Jordie 15, just not sure even Razor will put Jordan at fullback just my opinion

[canefan]

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

Yes I would at this stage, Roigard exciting prospect but he's not there yet, and Jordie 15, just not sure even Razor will put Jordan at fullback just my opinion

Sorry I can't agree with any of this

[Canes4life]

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

Christie, Beauden, Grindlay,Reiko, Talea, Jordan,Jordie looks ok probably dreaming on Grindlay but Razzor will have few Bolters and McKenzie of the bench with Roigard and ALB

You're asking to get ridiculed with this post.

Christie - NO
Beauden - NO
Grindlay - NO
Jordie at fullback - NO

[Chris]

@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

Christie, Beauden, Grindlay,Reiko, Talea, Jordan,Jordie looks ok probably dreaming on Grindlay but Razzor will have few Bolters and McKenzie of the bench with Roigard and ALB

You're asking to get ridiculed with this post.

Christie - NO
Beauden - NO
Grindlay - NO
Jordie at fullback - NO

Razor will play Jordie at 2nd five he likes him there from the Canterbury days he coached and had Jordie at 12.

Jordan will be FB under Razor.

Beauden not sure what the thinking is there 10 which is 100 times yuck or bench.

Grindley not in the picture imo.

[Chris]

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[KiwiMurph]

@george33 said in All Blacks 2024:

Christie, Beauden, Grindlay,Reiko, Talea, Jordan,Jordie looks ok probably dreaming on Grindlay but Razzor will have few Bolters and McKenzie of the bench with Roigard and ALB

I don't want Christie 9 Beauden 10 at the Blues let alone the ABs. At least Foster this year kept Beauden away from the 10 shirt. At this stage of his career he ain't good enough to be ABs starting 10.

[george33]

@Chris will he really I've heard different about Jordan ,