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All Blacks 2024

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    Darren
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    I think I'd rather follow Ardie than Barrett though Just from what I have observed.

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      I'd be a bit surprised if they don't pick 6 props. I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad.

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      • Chris B.C Chris B.

        I'd be a bit surprised if they don't pick 6 props. I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad.

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        @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad

        the World Cup was only like 8 months ago

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad

          the World Cup was only like 8 months ago

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          @mariner4life normally yeah but they might want to check out some people in the "new" AB setup

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad

            the World Cup was only like 8 months ago

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            @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad

            the World Cup was only like 8 months ago

            classic

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            • KirwanK Kirwan

              Between Ardie and Barrett, yikes. Not exactly the two sharpest knives in the drawer.

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              @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              Between Ardie and Barrett, yikes. Not exactly the two sharpest knives in the drawer.

              Captain is a concern - as much as I hate to say it with the ambuguity in the game these days the captain has to be someone that can get in the ear of the ref and influence them.

              Savea is just extremely passive with the ref and Barret would probably just annoy them.

              How good is Papps with his coms to the ref?

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              • Windows97W Windows97

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Between Ardie and Barrett, yikes. Not exactly the two sharpest knives in the drawer.

                Captain is a concern - as much as I hate to say it with the ambuguity in the game these days the captain has to be someone that can get in the ear of the ref and influence them.

                Savea is just extremely passive with the ref and Barret would probably just annoy them.

                How good is Papps with his coms to the ref?

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                @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Between Ardie and Barrett, yikes. Not exactly the two sharpest knives in the drawer.

                Captain is a concern - as much as I hate to say it with the ambuguity in the game these days the captain has to be someone that can get in the ear of the ref and influence them.

                Savea is just extremely passive with the ref and Barret would probably just annoy them.

                How good is Papps with his coms to the ref?

                He's fine, but not as good as Patrick.

                It would be tempting to me to make one of Taylor or Patrick captain for one year as an interim captain.

                Loose forward is going to be very contested, and IMO we want to be able to try Hoskins at 8. Ardie's not been a seven for a long time now too.

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                  I think Paps is a dark horse here for captain.

                  He’s a good age, has experience in the role at Super level, and is probably the right 7 to allow Ardie to be Ardie at 8.

                  I think the talk of Blackadder to Japan could be a clue that the word is out that Paps has the jersey sewn up.

                  I think he is a future AB captain. It may not be this year but I think it’s coming.

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                  • boobooB booboo

                    @Tim is Lord in any sort of consideration?

                    Also, I agree about additional THP and Lock.

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                    @booboo Is Lord available? Would be great if he was.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      @booboo Is Lord available? Would be great if he was.

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                      @Tim Lord is out for all of SR. They haven't given a return date.

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                        i think we need to accept that Stretched Blackadder is never going to be fit

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                        • KirwanK Kirwan

                          @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Between Ardie and Barrett, yikes. Not exactly the two sharpest knives in the drawer.

                          Captain is a concern - as much as I hate to say it with the ambuguity in the game these days the captain has to be someone that can get in the ear of the ref and influence them.

                          Savea is just extremely passive with the ref and Barret would probably just annoy them.

                          How good is Papps with his coms to the ref?

                          He's fine, but not as good as Patrick.

                          It would be tempting to me to make one of Taylor or Patrick captain for one year as an interim captain.

                          Loose forward is going to be very contested, and IMO we want to be able to try Hoskins at 8. Ardie's not been a seven for a long time now too.

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                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Windows97 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Kirwan said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Between Ardie and Barrett, yikes. Not exactly the two sharpest knives in the drawer.

                          Captain is a concern - as much as I hate to say it with the ambuguity in the game these days the captain has to be someone that can get in the ear of the ref and influence them.

                          Savea is just extremely passive with the ref and Barret would probably just annoy them.

                          How good is Papps with his coms to the ref?

                          He's fine, but not as good as Patrick.

                          It would be tempting to me to make one of Taylor or Patrick captain for one year as an interim captain.

                          Loose forward is going to be very contested, and IMO we want to be able to try Hoskins at 8. Ardie's not been a seven for a long time now too.

                          Probably won't happen because he might not be guaranteed starter who can fire for 80 minutes, but making Patty T AB captain might light a fire under him to lift his game at international level. Our lock situation is looking precarious. The way forward might be to try to get something more out of existing options.

                          As it is, I think Scott Barrett will captain the side.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Admittedly I haven't watched much Super, but would Proctor be a better option than ALB on the bench?

                            Proctor has been the form 13 of Super Rugby. He's been excellent. He does the ability to play 12 - right now ALB has runs on the board but if Proctor can transfer his Super form to test level then he will give Razor something to really think about.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Admittedly I haven't watched much Super, but would Proctor be a better option than ALB on the bench?

                            Proctor has been the form 13 of Super Rugby. He's been excellent. He does the ability to play 12 - right now ALB has runs on the board but if Proctor can transfer his Super form to test level then he will give Razor something to really think about.

                            Proctor doesn't play 12 much. But he was outstanding in his one start at super rugby level during 2023. Close to his best game ever

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                            • D Darren

                              I think I'd rather follow Ardie than Barrett though Just from what I have observed.

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                              @Darren said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              I think I'd rather follow Ardie than Barrett though Just from what I have observed.

                              Are you hoping for a call up ? Good luck, would be awesome having an AB on the fern !

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad

                                the World Cup was only like 8 months ago

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad

                                the World Cup was only like 8 months ago

                                Yeah, but they picked 5 wings in a 33 man squad. What's your point? 🙂

                                I reckon picking the injured Narawa and replacing him later (with Blackadder) was a total (and very smart) ploy.

                                To labour the point....

                                Narawa and Clarke collectively (all Clarke) played one game against a minnow and 20 minutes off the bench vs another minnow. In a comp. where there are restrictions around replacing players. For our first three tests this year we can bring whomever we want into our squad if someone gets injured.

                                They won't pick 4 wings - but, you know this!

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                                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  I'd be very surprised if they pick 4 wings in a 32 man squad

                                  the World Cup was only like 8 months ago

                                  Yeah, but they picked 5 wings in a 33 man squad. What's your point? 🙂

                                  I reckon picking the injured Narawa and replacing him later (with Blackadder) was a total (and very smart) ploy.

                                  To labour the point....

                                  Narawa and Clarke collectively (all Clarke) played one game against a minnow and 20 minutes off the bench vs another minnow. In a comp. where there are restrictions around replacing players. For our first three tests this year we can bring whomever we want into our squad if someone gets injured.

                                  They won't pick 4 wings - but, you know this!

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                                  @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

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                                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

                                    Sevu's got a good chance of making it. I don't think the others...shall. 🙂

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

                                      Sevu's got a good chance of making it. I don't think the others...shall. 🙂

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                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

                                      Sevu's got a good chance of making it. I don't think the others...shall. 🙂

                                      With Aumua and Havili able to cover the rest of the backline outside 9, they're a shoo-in.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

                                        McNicholl ineligible?

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

                                          McNicholl ineligible?

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                                          @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Chris-B probably looking for versatility, hello McNicholl, Springer and Reece.

                                          McNicholl ineligible?

                                          Last capped for Wales in 2022 so yes he’s ineligible. Wouldn’t be considered to get a call up at 33 years old anyway, especially as an outside back.

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