All Blacks 2024
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
likely smaller 6 (than SF)
Not if Finau is 6.
True but (if I am reading the mood here) he isn't a certainty, and the locks may well be shorter than recent AB lock height. Not saying shorter locks can't jump but lineout jumpers and height seemed to be a factor in previous coaches' selection strategies..
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
likely smaller 6 (than SF)
Not if Finau is 6.
True but (if I am reading the mood here) he isn't a certainty, and the locks may well be shorter than recent AB lock height. Not saying shorter locks can't jump but lineout jumpers and height seemed to be a factor in previous coaches' selection strategies..
Finau's been doing just fine as a lineout option for the Chiefs.
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My source says no Finau, Blackadder in, no DMac, Havili in, no Proctor, McLeod in, no Tuipulotu, Hannah in.
Maybe
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Lol how is Billy Proctor all of a sudden unfavoured. He was clearly the form centre throughout the majority of Super rugby and has been kicking the door down for a couple years now with his consistency. I'll be very surprised if he wasn't selected, especially because Holland is selecting the centres and he pushed for his case when he was coaching the Canes aswell.
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Lol how is Billy Proctor all of a sudden unfavoured. He was clearly the form centre throughout the majority of Super rugby and has been kicking the door down for a couple years now with his consistency. I'll be very surprised if he wasn't selected, especially because Holland is selecting the centres and he pushed for his case when he was coaching the Canes aswell.
@Canes4life
There does seem to be a real squeeze on now for squad places. Albeit, if only amongst fan chat.It appears that we may not have many new caps in the ABs even though we have lost 8 players overseas after the RWC.
Is a 32 man squad too small?
The Boks named a lot of new faces (different circumstances I know) but I would be dissapointed if we don’t
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@Canes4life
There does seem to be a real squeeze on now for squad places. Albeit, if only amongst fan chat.It appears that we may not have many new caps in the ABs even though we have lost 8 players overseas after the RWC.
Is a 32 man squad too small?
The Boks named a lot of new faces (different circumstances I know) but I would be dissapointed if we don’t
@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Is a 32 man squad too small?
Not for a 2 test home series.
The RC squad wil be bigger - and I suspect the EOYT squad will be large, with a few travelling apprentices.
all this is based on my extensive knowledge of top level international coaching from my (virtual) armchair
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Is a 32 man squad too small?
Not for a 2 test home series.
The RC squad wil be bigger - and I suspect the EOYT squad will be large, with a few travelling apprentices.
all this is based on my extensive knowledge of top level international coaching from my (virtual) armchair
Thanks virtual Fozzie
Fair point about squad size. It’s a short turn around before 1st test. It has to be focussed on the test series and not as an intro to Razors vision to an overbloated squad with 9 days to prepare for a test match after the squad naming.
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@Canes4life
There does seem to be a real squeeze on now for squad places. Albeit, if only amongst fan chat.It appears that we may not have many new caps in the ABs even though we have lost 8 players overseas after the RWC.
Is a 32 man squad too small?
The Boks named a lot of new faces (different circumstances I know) but I would be dissapointed if we don’t
@DaGrubster Proctor is easily pushing Ioane to be the top centre in NZ. If Havili pushes him out that would be bloody disappointing considering he doesn't even play 13. I don't think it will happen though, each specific position selector has been watching each NZ player closely all year and based on that Proctor's consistency should see him through. Conrad Smith came out the other day and to him Proctor was a certainty in this squad, he obviously reminds him of how he played in the Black jersey.
There needs to be a number of fresh faces in this side, if we select largely the same squad as last year we won't be improving much IMO.
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Thanks virtual Fozzie
Fair point about squad size. It’s a short turn around before 1st test. It has to be focussed on the test series and not as an intro to Razors vision to an overbloated squad with 9 days to prepare for a test match after the squad naming.
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@DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Is a 32 man squad too small?
Not for a 2 test home series.
The RC squad wil be bigger - and I suspect the EOYT squad will be large, with a few travelling apprentices.
all this is based on my extensive knowledge of top level international coaching from my (virtual) armchair
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@DaGrubster Proctor is easily pushing Ioane to be the top centre in NZ. If Havili pushes him out that would be bloody disappointing considering he doesn't even play 13. I don't think it will happen though, each specific position selector has been watching each NZ player closely all year and based on that Proctor's consistency should see him through. Conrad Smith came out the other day and to him Proctor was a certainty in this squad, he obviously reminds him of how he played in the Black jersey.
There needs to be a number of fresh faces in this side, if we select largely the same squad as last year we won't be improving much IMO.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster Proctor is easily pushing Ioane to be the top centre in NZ. If Havili pushes him out that would be bloody disappointing considering he doesn't even play 13. I don't think it will happen though, each specific position selector has been watching each NZ player closely all year and based on that Proctor's consistency should see him through. Conrad Smith came out the other day and to him Proctor was a certainty in this squad, he obviously reminds him of how he played in the Black jersey.
There needs to be a number of fresh faces in this side, if we select largely the same squad as last year we won't be improving much IMO.
A former Hurricanes player campaigning for a current Hurricanes player, well I never….
Proctor has been excellent this season. The only question I think they’ll be asking is in a small squad of 32 and with Ioane, Jordie and ALB certainties, does the other back we pick need to more of a midfield/wing specialist option? And before anyone says it, Ioane is not that guy any more IMO.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster Proctor is easily pushing Ioane to be the top centre in NZ. If Havili pushes him out that would be bloody disappointing considering he doesn't even play 13. I don't think it will happen though, each specific position selector has been watching each NZ player closely all year and based on that Proctor's consistency should see him through. Conrad Smith came out the other day and to him Proctor was a certainty in this squad, he obviously reminds him of how he played in the Black jersey.
There needs to be a number of fresh faces in this side, if we select largely the same squad as last year we won't be improving much IMO.
A former Hurricanes player campaigning for a current Hurricanes player, well I never….
Proctor has been excellent this season. The only question I think they’ll be asking is in a small squad of 32 and with Ioane, Jordie and ALB certainties, does the other back we pick need to more of a midfield/wing specialist option? And before anyone says it, Ioane is not that guy any more IMO.
@ACT-Crusader AJ Lam 12,13,14 problem solved
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@ACT-Crusader AJ Lam 12,13,14 problem solved
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@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Not for a 2 test home series.
technically true, but san diego?
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster Proctor is easily pushing Ioane to be the top centre in NZ. If Havili pushes him out that would be bloody disappointing considering he doesn't even play 13. I don't think it will happen though, each specific position selector has been watching each NZ player closely all year and based on that Proctor's consistency should see him through. Conrad Smith came out the other day and to him Proctor was a certainty in this squad, he obviously reminds him of how he played in the Black jersey.
There needs to be a number of fresh faces in this side, if we select largely the same squad as last year we won't be improving much IMO.
A former Hurricanes player campaigning for a current Hurricanes player, well I never….
Proctor has been excellent this season. The only question I think they’ll be asking is in a small squad of 32 and with Ioane, Jordie and ALB certainties, does the other back we pick need to more of a midfield/wing specialist option? And before anyone says it, Ioane is not that guy any more IMO.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@DaGrubster Proctor is easily pushing Ioane to be the top centre in NZ. If Havili pushes him out that would be bloody disappointing considering he doesn't even play 13. I don't think it will happen though, each specific position selector has been watching each NZ player closely all year and based on that Proctor's consistency should see him through. Conrad Smith came out the other day and to him Proctor was a certainty in this squad, he obviously reminds him of how he played in the Black jersey.
There needs to be a number of fresh faces in this side, if we select largely the same squad as last year we won't be improving much IMO.
A former Hurricanes player campaigning for a current Hurricanes player, well I never….
Proctor has been excellent this season. The only question I think they’ll be asking is in a small squad of 32 and with Ioane, Jordie and ALB certainties, does the other back we pick need to more of a midfield/wing specialist option? And before anyone says it, Ioane is not that guy any more IMO.
I just the judgment of our greatest test centre over Holland any day.
Nah Ioane can cover wing IMO. We need specialist players in this squad. I'm sick of shitter players getting in just because there's a chance they may be needed on the wing. If Ioane has to move out to the wing for 15 mins of a test then so be it.
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@george33 yep or McLeod.
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@george33 yep or McLeod.
@ACT-Crusader McLeod don't think so at all , if he is that would be disappointing, doesn't deserve the spot
