All Blacks 2024
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph particularly as it is often instinctive, that said, Christie seems to have great instincts on defence and seems to be able to read that aspect of the game, whether he can do that going forward is another matter.
I think the Blues 2022 (year immediately after he made the AB's) he was very good, seemed both sides of his game had improved, but regressed on attack.
If we’re up by 3 against Boks with 20 to go, and have the choice between TJP, Christie and Hotham to replace starting half, I know where I’d go.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph particularly as it is often instinctive, that said, Christie seems to have great instincts on defence and seems to be able to read that aspect of the game, whether he can do that going forward is another matter.
I think the Blues 2022 (year immediately after he made the AB's) he was very good, seemed both sides of his game had improved, but regressed on attack.
If we’re up by 3 against Boks with 20 to go, and have the choice between TJP, Christie and Hotham to replace starting half, I know where I’d go.
And if we are down by a couple, with time running out, in a big game eg. A RWC final?
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@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph particularly as it is often instinctive, that said, Christie seems to have great instincts on defence and seems to be able to read that aspect of the game, whether he can do that going forward is another matter.
I think the Blues 2022 (year immediately after he made the AB's) he was very good, seemed both sides of his game had improved, but regressed on attack.
If we’re up by 3 against Boks with 20 to go, and have the choice between TJP, Christie and Hotham to replace starting half, I know where I’d go.
@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
If we’re up by 3 against Boks with 20 to go, and have the choice between TJP, Christie and Hotham to replace starting half, I know where I’d go.
I doubt the selection team feel that differently. But their aim is to be 13 ahead, and then not have the problem.
They have made it clear that they are looking to change the style of play at halfback, which forces their hand.
The Fern can't want changes, and then complain when changes are made. Well, it can and will. But it is still wrong to do so.
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Just watched the rugby pod , Wallace sititi is an impressive young man for 21 , now I understand why I’ve heard it mentioned he is potential future captaincy material ,
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Reflecting on the squad, the tight forwards are about as strong as they could be.
Likewise, the backs are fine, albeit one could quibble around the fringes.
However, the SEVEN loose forwards are a dog's breakfast! Four who were principally sevens at their franchises, none of whom are recognised fetchers. ONE which is a top class lineout operator. ONE big hard hitter, TWO short no. 8s. Jacks of all trades but master of none.
Looking at forwards as a whole, Blues were by far the best pack in Super rugby and manage to provide only four of the 20 forwards in the squad.
Calling Jerome Kaino?
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Reflecting on the squad, the tight forwards are about as strong as they could be.
Likewise, the backs are fine, albeit one could quibble around the fringes.
However, the SEVEN loose forwards are a dog's breakfast! Four who were principally sevens at their franchises, none of whom are recognised fetchers. ONE which is a top class lineout operator. ONE big hard hitter, TWO short no. 8s. Jacks of all trades but master of none.
Looking at forwards as a whole, Blues were by far the best pack in Super rugby and manage to provide only four of the 20 forwards in the squad.
Calling Jerome Kaino?
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:
@pakman said in All Blacks 2024:
fetchers
Not sure that's been a thing since early MCaw
It's not that the game changed as many NZers like to claim, it's that we didn't have any decent ones for a while. In fact the only half decent one in a long time was Lachlan Boshier. and Ardie to some extent I guess, but he hasn't been playing 7.
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given the squad, what would be the team to guarantee the most melts on here?
EdG
Taylor
Lomax
Patty T
Darry
Blackadder
Cane
Jacobson
TJP
DMac
Telea
ALB
Proctor
Jordan
PerofetaBell
Newell
Williams
Finau
DP
Hotham
Havili
BBarrett -
given the squad, what would be the team to guarantee the most melts on here?
EdG
Taylor
Lomax
Patty T
Darry
Blackadder
Cane
Jacobson
TJP
DMac
Telea
ALB
Proctor
Jordan
PerofetaBell
Newell
Williams
Finau
DP
Hotham
Havili
BBarrett@mariner4life put BB at 10
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i tried to not make too many outlandish calls. Dave jumping two guys to get the 12 jersey is a bit much. People would rant less and genuinely wonder if the coaches have lost their minds.
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I would rather Havili starting at 2nd-5 than Beauden starting at 1st-5.
But your loose forwards don't trigger me, because while all the players are good, most of the alternative arrangements of them are not.
Starting Jordan at fullback would trigger a few people.
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I would rather Havili starting at 2nd-5 than Beauden starting at 1st-5.
But your loose forwards don't trigger me, because while all the players are good, most of the alternative arrangements of them are not.
Starting Jordan at fullback would trigger a few people.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:
I would rather Havili starting at 2nd-5 than Beauden starting at 1st-5.
But your loose forwards don't trigger me, because while all the players are good, most of the alternative arrangements of them are not.
Starting Jordan at fullback would trigger a few people.
I’ll tag @Bones so he sees it
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You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.
Haha, trolling! Even Canes4life would say Ioane deserves to start. He's the incumbent and has done nothing massively wrong to deserve to be dropped. If Proctor does make the bench I would be surprised
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@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.
Haha, trolling! Even Canes4life would say Ioane deserves to start. He's the incumbent and has done nothing massively wrong to deserve to be dropped. If Proctor does make the bench I would be surprised
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.
Haha, trolling! Even Canes4life would say Ioane deserves to start. He's the incumbent and has done nothing massively wrong to deserve to be dropped. If Proctor does make the bench I would be surprised
You sure about that ?
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@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.
Haha, trolling! Even Canes4life would say Ioane deserves to start. He's the incumbent and has done nothing massively wrong to deserve to be dropped. If Proctor does make the bench I would be surprised
You sure about that ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@canefan said in All Blacks 2024:
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:
You need Ioane at centre, the Canes faction will break the internet on their own with the omission of Proctor the Great.
Haha, trolling! Even Canes4life would say Ioane deserves to start. He's the incumbent and has done nothing massively wrong to deserve to be dropped. If Proctor does make the bench I would be surprised
You sure about that ?
I think he even said as much a while back. He'll be over in a while and can speak for himself
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I think for loose forwards:
6 : Papali'i
7 : Cane
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I would rather Havili starting at 2nd-5 than Beauden starting at 1st-5.
But your loose forwards don't trigger me, because while all the players are good, most of the alternative arrangements of them are not.
Starting Jordan at fullback would trigger a few people.
@Chester-Draws said in All Blacks 2024:
I would rather Havili starting at 2nd-5 than Beauden starting at 1st-5.
far out short memories people. Havili looked great at 12 against 'lighter' teams, but got smoked when the physicality went up. He hasn't changed. You'll get the same outcome.
