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  • mariner4lifeM Online
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    defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO

    But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.

    NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Darry? No way

      Strange it is then. 😉

      https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/sport/350297730/all-blacks-watch-five-positions-keeping-new-coach-scott-robertson-night

      Mark Hinton has Quinten in the inside lane.

      When pickings are slim Strange things happen! 🙂

      I don't think Hinton has a great track record of inside oil - he's just stirring.

      I imagine he's watching us having fun with it on here and decided to try and troll the rest of the country.

      I will fucking laugh if Strange gets picked though. Deadshit central.

      Drummies chances appear to have passed by though - it will have to be Hotham in the 9 shirt 🙂

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      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Darry? No way

      Strange it is then. 😉

      https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/sport/350297730/all-blacks-watch-five-positions-keeping-new-coach-scott-robertson-night

      Mark Hinton has Quinten in the inside lane.

      When pickings are slim Strange things happen! 🙂

      I don't think Hinton has a great track record of inside oil - he's just stirring.

      I imagine he's watching us having fun with it on here and decided to try and troll the rest of the country.

      I will fucking laugh if Strange gets picked though. Deadshit central.

      Drummies chances appear to have passed by though - it will have to be Hotham in the 9 shirt 🙂

      I guess Drummie got his AB cap. Don't think he'll add to it.

      If Quinten had done a bit less dumb shit this year, he probably would have an inside track. He and Ah Koui seemed to be the first choice AB XV locks last year.

      And pickings are very slim with who's available and (assuming internet listings are close to correct) who has the size to be a genuine international lock. We seem to have a lot of quite short locks.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO

        But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.

        NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.

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        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.

        Your not wrong there, what's most annoying is that often there's no clear development plan at all for the player, they get no game time in their "new" position in NPC or SR.

        Our attempts to be clever often result in the player having to try and learn their craft in the international arena - the worst and most unforgiving arena for you to make mistakes in. Yet we seem to do it all the time, with the same medicore results...

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO

          But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.

          NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.

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          #2564

          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO

          But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.

          NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.

          Where's this bile for Razor coming from Mariner?
          He hasn't even started and you are all over him at every opportunity.
          Concerned.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Darry? No way

            Strange it is then. 😉

            https://www.waikatotimes.co.nz/sport/350297730/all-blacks-watch-five-positions-keeping-new-coach-scott-robertson-night

            Mark Hinton has Quinten in the inside lane.

            When pickings are slim Strange things happen! 🙂

            I don't think Hinton has a great track record of inside oil - he's just stirring.

            I imagine he's watching us having fun with it on here and decided to try and troll the rest of the country.

            I will fucking laugh if Strange gets picked though. Deadshit central.

            Drummies chances appear to have passed by though - it will have to be Hotham in the 9 shirt 🙂

            I guess Drummie got his AB cap. Don't think he'll add to it.

            If Quinten had done a bit less dumb shit this year, he probably would have an inside track. He and Ah Koui seemed to be the first choice AB XV locks last year.

            And pickings are very slim with who's available and (assuming internet listings are close to correct) who has the size to be a genuine international lock. We seem to have a lot of quite short locks.

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            @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            If Quinten had done a bit less dumb shit this year, he probably would have an inside track. He and Ah Koui seemed to be the first choice AB XV locks last year.

            Unfortunately the only part of Ah Koui's game that has improved this year is his post match interviews.

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            • FrankF Frank

              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO

              But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.

              NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.

              Where's this bile for Razor coming from Mariner?
              He hasn't even started and you are all over him at every opportunity.
              Concerned.

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              mariner4lifeM Online
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              @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              defend Foster? From a Chiefs fan? GTFO

              But after years and years and years of "dur Fozzie sucks" we are still getting posts referencing him like he's the only one who selected guys out of position. It's tedious.

              NZ Rugby has, for as long as i can remember, been far too in love with its depth, and loves to get clever trying to shoehorn players on to the field. And it very fucking rarely works. I will laugh out loud if we finally have a few 6s playing high quality football, and Mr. "innovative systems" just picks another 7.5 there.

              Where's this bile for Razor coming from Mariner?
              He hasn't even started and you are all over him at every opportunity.
              Concerned.

              don't be.
              I wish the bloke all the best, and sincerely hope he's the guy to turn us back in to a side no one wants to play. I would love nothing more than for AB tests inevitable for all involved again.

              The tone of my posts on the Fern are purely a reflection of the absolute glazing from certain sections of the membership here for the past 4-5 years. It's bordered on fan fiction.

              And lets face it, this thread is nothing but wild guesses thrown about by absolutely everyone involved. So if you're taking anything seriously that's on you

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              • nzzpN Offline
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                Fun fact time (from a mate)!
                Blackadder debuted in 2018 and has played 7 seasons of Super. He's played 42 Super games. There are two seasons where he has played more than 5 matches.

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  now you are creating sticks to beat him with. He's gone, the bad man can't hurt you know, Surf Jesus is here to make sure we never lose again

                  it was more a critique of the practice of playing people out of position when there are options actually playing in that position, just using the most recent coach's experiments with that idea.....and the subsequent poor results....as an example

                  Mils at Centre?
                  Jordie on a wing?
                  SBarrett at 6?
                  Cullen at centre?
                  A Savea at 6

                  That is off the top of my head. It's gone on forever. Pick the "best" players and stick them on a field has been a thing for ages.

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                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Mils at Centre?

                  Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Mils at Centre?

                    Mils is an interesting one, initially selected out of position at 15 because Bitchell hated Cullen, then selected out of position at 13 because early Conrad kept breaking.

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                    @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Bitchell hated Cullen Cullen was broken

                    FTFY

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Bitchell hated Cullen Cullen was broken

                      FTFY

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Bitchell hated Cullen Cullen was broken

                      FTFY

                      No he wasn't, he wasn't Cullen 1996 but he was the best fullback going in Super in 2003.

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                      • mariner4lifeM Online
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                        blatant revisionism

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          blatant revisionism

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                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          blatant revisionism

                          you're trolling, but you should lift your game more and claim that Ben Blair was clearly a better player than Cullen 03

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                            Cullen had the misfortune of being compared to himself in his hey day rather than against other players, he was definitely the best fullback in 03 but he didn't have much left in him at that stage. I think we could have gotten another season out of him, but begrudgingly can see why they wanted to look forward given his injuries. His treatment by Bitchell was unforgiveable for an AB great to be cast aside the way he was though.

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                            • nzzpN nzzp

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              blatant revisionism

                              you're trolling, but you should lift your game more and claim that Ben Blair was clearly a better player than Cullen 03

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                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              blatant revisionism

                              you're trolling, but you should lift your game more and claim that Ben Blair was clearly a better player than Cullen 03

                              but that is clearly false.

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                                Howlett was probably the best fullback in 2003 SR. He started the first Test of the year at fullback too.

                                There were a few injuries and Howlett was needed on the wing so Mils got selected at fullback in the second Test

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                                  and then we hit the 3N with Mils, Dougie and Joe and she was apples.

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                                    So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.

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                                      @Canes4life Kirwan is an incredible human being, and a terrible rugby coach and analyst.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        So on the Breakdown last night Kirwan was pushing for Riccitelli to be selected as one of the hookers. He's the sort of guy that doesn't make many mistakes but I wouldn't have him up there as one of the top three hookers.

                                        Crikey!

                                        I saw Ricky getting interviewed by Jeff Wilson at the weekend and Goldie was towering over him!

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                                          JK pumping in pumping for undeserved Blues player shock

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