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    Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

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      Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

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      @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

      Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

      Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

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        @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

        Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

        Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

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        @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

        @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

        Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

        Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

        3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

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          @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

          @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

          Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

          Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

          3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

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          @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

          @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

          @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

          Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

          Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

          3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

          Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

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            @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

            @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

            @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

            Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

            Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

            3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

            Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

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            @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

            @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

            @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

            @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

            Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

            Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

            3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

            Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

            IMHO if he comes back and walks into the starters role, we are gonna be in for trouble in the next 3 years

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              @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

              Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

              3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

              Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

              IMHO if he comes back and walks into the starters role, we are gonna be in for trouble in the next 3 years

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              @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

              Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

              Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

              3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

              Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

              IMHO if he comes back and walks into the starters role, we are gonna be in for trouble in the next 3 years

              The fact that B Barrett is getting a new contract, to me suggests the other options are not rated in the immediate term by Razor, and I don't really blame him. Outside of DMac & Perofeta, there is very few players in their prime who are even close to All Black standard (And I don't even think those two are really All Black starting 10s...)

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                I think DMac could be excellent. Stronger territorial kicking game than we have had in a while...

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                  @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                  @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                  @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                  Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

                  Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

                  3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

                  Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

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                  @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                  @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                  @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                  @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                  Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

                  Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

                  3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

                  Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

                  A hell of a lot can change in 3 years.

                  Cruden debuted NPC in 08, captained NZ 20s in 09 and started a World Cup Final at 10 in 2011.

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                    @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

                    Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

                    3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

                    Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

                    A hell of a lot can change in 3 years.

                    Cruden debuted NPC in 08, captained NZ 20s in 09 and started a World Cup Final at 10 in 2011.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                    Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

                    Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

                    3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

                    Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

                    A hell of a lot can change in 3 years.

                    Cruden debuted NPC in 08, captained NZ 20s in 09 and started a World Cup Final at 10 in 2011.

                    Absolutely, but that is why I say calculated risk.

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                      @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

                      Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

                      3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

                      Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

                      IMHO if he comes back and walks into the starters role, we are gonna be in for trouble in the next 3 years

                      The fact that B Barrett is getting a new contract, to me suggests the other options are not rated in the immediate term by Razor, and I don't really blame him. Outside of DMac & Perofeta, there is very few players in their prime who are even close to All Black standard (And I don't even think those two are really All Black starting 10s...)

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                      @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                      Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

                      Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

                      3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

                      Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

                      IMHO if he comes back and walks into the starters role, we are gonna be in for trouble in the next 3 years

                      The fact that B Barrett is getting a new contract, to me suggests the other options are not rated in the immediate term by Razor, and I don't really blame him. Outside of DMac & Perofeta, there is very few players in their prime who are even close to All Black standard (And I don't even think those two are really All Black starting 10s...)

                      What fact? Beaudy doesn't have a contact

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                        @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                        @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                        @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                        @canefan said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                        @frugby said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                        @SBW1 said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                        Find it really strange that RM has no desire to play for the ABs again. He would be under his Crusader's coach, he was on the cusp of owning the 10 jersey and really cementing himself as possibly one of our great No.10s. Seems weird, surely there isn't more to it than meets the eye.

                        Easy to say, but I'll believe it when I see it. Why sign a three year deal then? Perfectly timed for him to return in 2027.

                        3 years is a long time in All Black rugby. I don't think he could leave assuming he could walk back into the squad again

                        Calculated risk... but does anyone really see DMac, Perofeta or B Barrett as the long term ABs 10? I'm doubtful. Only real threat is if one of the youngsters (Kemara & Millar the two who jump out?) stun us all by taking their respective games to new heights.

                        IMHO if he comes back and walks into the starters role, we are gonna be in for trouble in the next 3 years

                        The fact that B Barrett is getting a new contract, to me suggests the other options are not rated in the immediate term by Razor, and I don't really blame him. Outside of DMac & Perofeta, there is very few players in their prime who are even close to All Black standard (And I don't even think those two are really All Black starting 10s...)

                        What fact? Beaudy doesn't have a contact

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                        @Machpants He is quite clearly getting one, don't nitpick on words, this isn't high school English.

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                          Ok, you can just make shit up, and I won't call you out in it next time. Carry on

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                            Ok, you can just make shit up, and I won't call you out in it next time. Carry on

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                            @Machpants https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/133265638/all-black-beauden-barrett-set-to-sign-longterm-nz-rugby-deal-available-in-2024#:~:text=Beauden Barrett won't be,the All Blacks in 2024.

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                                Back up to Beauden, plenty of possible candidates, maybe Perofeta he's been there B4 , not many others , let's C how super goes first

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                                  Back up to Beauden, plenty of possible candidates, maybe Perofeta he's been there B4 , not many others , let's C how super goes first

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                                  @george33 back up to Beauden? Just attempting to stir the pot during rugby offseason?

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                                    @george33 back up to Beauden? Just attempting to stir the pot during rugby offseason?

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                                    @KiwiMurph you should know better.

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                                      @george33 back up to Beauden? Just attempting to stir the pot during rugby offseason?

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                                      @KiwiMurph said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                                      @george33 back up to Beauden? Just attempting to stir the pot during rugby offseason?

                                      I suspect George is not a fan of DMac.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                                        @george33 back up to Beauden? Just attempting to stir the pot during rugby offseason?

                                        I suspect George is not a fan of DMac.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Opinions on possible back-up All Blacks 10s:

                                        @george33 back up to Beauden? Just attempting to stir the pot during rugby offseason?

                                        I suspect George is not a fan of DMac.

                                        I suspect George is a Troll-Bot with the "Mischief" plugin dialed up to 10.

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                                          drunk Tim

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