AB bolters thread
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="579595" data-time="1463164199"><p>If Read was to go down injured , who starts at 8 ? <br> 
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 This is where I see Vito as a loss , a genuine 8 now IMO<br></p></blockquote>
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 Where is the value in picking Vito when he's buggering off overseas? IMO ABs are better off developing another 8 option, or at least seeing if someone can play there (think Dixon/Luatua/Squire etc).
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I think there's a kid called akira ioane who's earmarked for that trial sometime this year.<br><br> 
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Blindside is where we station our pack enforcer. Jerry Collins, Jerome kaino. I don't picture luatua as capable of providing that muscle. <br><br> 
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An enforcer job is certainly a role Dixon doesn't mind taking on. He's absolutely fantastic. 
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Provincial Stalwart" data-cid="579647" data-time="1463183614"> 
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 <p><strong>Blindside is where we station our pack enforcer</strong>. Jerry Collins, Jerome kaino. I don't picture luatua as capable of providing that muscle.<br><br>
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 <p>Yeah but Rueben Thorne and Taine Randell have played there too.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="kiwiinmelb" data-cid="579595" data-time="1463164199"><p>If Read was to go down injured , who starts at 8 ? <br><br> 
 This is where I see Vito as a loss , a genuine 8 now IMO</p></blockquote>
 Kaino with Luatua to the blindside. After Rio it will be Akira as Read's understudy. Massive upsides to him.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579649" data-time="1463184744"><p>Yeah but Rueben Thorne and Taine Randell have played there too.</p></blockquote> 
 Yeah but Jamie Joseph and cowboy Shaw. <br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Provincial Stalwart" data-cid="579660" data-time="1463188088"> 
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 <p>Yeah but <strong>Jamie Joseph</strong> and cowboy Shaw.</p>
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 <p>Standing on an opposition player's hand is not really the enforcement we're looking for. :)</p>
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Cowboy Shaw was known to help old ladies across the road though. And it was only kyran Bracken's hand (by JJ)<br><br> 
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="KiwiMurph" data-cid="579619" data-time="1463174557"> 
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 <p>Where is the value in picking Vito when he's buggering off overseas? IMO ABs are better off developing another 8 option, or at least seeing if someone can play there (think Dixon/Luatua/Squire etc).</p>
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 <p>Nah I wasnt suggesting they pick him , just saying he is a bit of a loss , not so much as a bench option , but as a starting 8 option if it was needed </p>
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 <p>Cowboy Shaw was known to help old ladies across the road though. And it was only kyran Bracken's hand (by JJ)<br><br>
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 <p>Yeah I don't remember Jamie Joseph standing up to opposition forwards. Standing on opposition backs hands hardly screams enforcement, cheapshot is the word I'm looking for.</p>
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 <p>I also remember him holding a tackle bag during training and a winger knocked him on his ass.</p>
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<p>Based on the Reds Canes game, Barrett and Perenara are bolting their way out of the AB's into the NPC</p> 
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579749" data-time="1463216220"><p>Yeah I don't remember Jamie Joseph standing up to opposition forwards. Standing on opposition backs hands hardly screams enforcement, cheapshot is the word I'm looking for.<br><br> 
 I also remember him holding a tackle bag during training and a winger knocked him on his ass.</p></blockquote>
 Back in those days enforcement came largely in the form of cheap shots.
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Stockcar86" data-cid="579752" data-time="1463216361"> 
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 <p>Based on the Reds Canes game, Barrett and Perenara are bolting their way out of the AB's into the NPC</p>
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 <p>Barrett has been an integral part of the team for several years. He isn't going anywhere.</p>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="579749" data-time="1463216220"><p>Yeah I don't remember Jamie Joseph standing up to opposition forwards. Standing on opposition backs hands hardly screams enforcement, cheapshot is the word I'm looking for.<br><br> 
 I also remember him holding a tackle bag during training and a winger knocked him on his ass.</p></blockquote>
 Depends whether the winger was Jonah lomu.<br><br>
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Mofitzy" data-cid="579785" data-time="1463226029"> 
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 <p>Probably a bit of a long shot with our midfield depth but could Faddes be a dark horse?</p>
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 <p>I doubt it. He's only played a few good games of Super Rugby. Way too soon to be even remotely considered. I think Matt Proctor is more likely to be considered if you are talking about real bolters.</p>
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