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Black Caps v Australia

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  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

    @Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v Australia:

    The reaction to Mitchell's comment is exactly why we mostly get generic comments to the media. Anything else is not worth the risk.

    Arguably, I thought it was a very generic comment on his part trying not to get too deeply into discussing a loss. Listening to all of them this series with end of the day comments, they seem to have had media coaching on positivity (to a fault...)

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    @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia:

    @Crazy-Horse said in Black Caps v Australia:

    The reaction to Mitchell's comment is exactly why we mostly get generic comments to the media. Anything else is not worth the risk.

    Arguably, I thought it was a very generic comment on his part trying not to get too deeply into discussing a loss. Listening to all of them this series with end of the day comments, they seem to have had media coaching on positivity (to a fault...)

    It's gotten to the point where I don't bother with any post match/pre match interviews with coaches and players. It's mostly like you say, 'coached', and I don't blame them for it. It's a shame.

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      #1096

      One remarkable tactic might be to actually tell the truth in interviews - like "we were really dissapointed we didn't win there" and "yes I think we let them off the hook" and "I think I really underperformed this series, but I'll try real hard to correct that in the next one".

      But yes, interviews with the coach's and players are more often than not dire, often the players don't even answer the (very simple) questions posed to them and just say "yes I'm very proud of the boys and their performance" or some varient of that there-of.

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      • Windows97W Windows97

        @Donsteppa He's on a journey - just like his Dad 🙂

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        @Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:

        @Donsteppa He's on a journey - just like his Dad 🙂

        Like his Dad, maybe he is planning to get a job in the England setup in the future - he is echoing what they say after they lose.

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        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

          Good to see Daryl Mitchell's comments rightly get taken apart:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350209219/ex-test-greats-stunned-black-cap-daryl-mitchells-reaction-loss-australia

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          @Donsteppa said in Black Caps v Australia:

          Good to see Daryl Mitchell's comments rightly get taken apart:

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350209219/ex-test-greats-stunned-black-cap-daryl-mitchells-reaction-loss-australia

          He seems like a super competitive guy, so the comments were out of character

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            in the current side, coming out and saying "tim southee was a bit shit, and so was that other bloke that shouldn't have been there" is probably a really good way to get cut from the side. Especially when you didn't score that many

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              I forget his exact words - but even allowing for Glenn Philips level of positivity - some of his end of the day comments were very much rose tinted glasses during the series.

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                We got a hiding in the first game and let a golden chance to even the score and win a rare home test against Australia slip through our fingers. Literally

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                  #1102

                  Stuff: ‘Tim is fantastic’: Black Caps throw support behind under-fire skipper

                  He is also "brilliant".

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                    Wagons circled.

                    NZ Herald: New Zealand vs Australia: Black Caps defend Daryl Mitchell after commentators turn on Kiwi batter

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                      I don't see a change of test captain while Stead is still the coach. We'll be needing a Hesson moment for that to happen.

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v Australia:

                        SK bowled THREE overs ?!?!?

                        I read that he had a issue with his foot, which is the reason he didn't bowl yesterday.

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                        @Bovidae so not only is he a cretin , hes soft as fuck too

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                          There's not exactly a strong captaincy candidate around, though.

                          A Latham/Stead combo would be fairly pointless, IMO .

                          Latham with a brand new coach who has something about him. To whom Latham (or whoever) is a tool. Would probably/possibly work ok.

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            I don't see a change of test captain while Stead is still the coach. We'll be needing a Hesson moment for that to happen.

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                            @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Australia:

                            I don't see a change of test captain while Stead is still the coach. We'll be needing a Hesson moment for that to happen.

                            Forget about Darryl’s comments, when is someone (Weenink or DPL) going to comment that Stead and Southee have the full support of the Board…

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                              @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Australia:

                              I don't see a change of test captain while Stead is still the coach. We'll be needing a Hesson moment for that to happen.

                              Forget about Darryl’s comments, when is someone (Weenink or DPL) going to comment that Stead and Southee have the full support of the Board…

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                              @ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v Australia:

                              @Bovidae said in Black Caps v Australia:

                              I don't see a change of test captain while Stead is still the coach. We'll be needing a Hesson moment for that to happen.

                              Forget about Darryl’s comments, when is someone (Weenink or DPL) going to comment that Stead and Southee have the full support of the Board…

                              The problem is, they genuinely do have the support of the board.

                              I think the comments from Darryl are being grabbed as a symptom reaction. The reality is we have limited Test quality players, and we need to get the best out of them. We lost that test because we couldn't keep going in the first innings, and we dropped catches, and too many of our bowlers were toothless. Those are structural issues with our cricket - but I see little appetite to seriously address them.

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