Black Caps v Australia
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@MN5 Unless the pitch obviously favours seam over spin then I'm inclined to agree with you. I think Wags is probably done.
To be honest, about the only chance we have is to prepare a pitch that resembles something in Calcutta and hope that a spin quartet of Santner, Ajaz, Ravindra and Phillips can outbowl Lyon and the Aussie part-timers.
But, then, we haven't even picked Ajaz (which is interesting in itself). Seems like Santner is now the No. 1 spinner in all formats. I wonder whether his batting is the decisive point in tests?
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@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Chris-B said in Black Caps v Australia:
Wags is probably done.
Unfortunately I think so too
Yep.
however,
We Loves Wags -
With Wags nearing the end, Southee likely to follow and Jamieson forever injured, what does our seam bowling attack look like moving forward?
Henry and Will’O, who’s next?
Will we be stuck with a place holder (experienced consistent first class bowler like Kuggelijn/Tickner) until the next young fulla is ready?
Who are our next generation of bowlers?
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@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like Jacob Oram in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right now
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them. -
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.Jamieson has taken 80 wickets at 19.73 in 19 tests which is beyond World class. Bond took 87 at 22.09 in 18 tests which is sensational. Jamieson has taken less but fair to point out he had better competition to get the wickets in SBW.
But jeepers, is that the price we have to pay for having brilliant performers ? Utter World class brilliance vs periods of constantly breaking down ?
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Feel for Jamieson, he just can't seem to get a lucky break - only bad ones
We had a golden period with Southee and Boult being able to hold everything together but but our attack seems rather thin. Again we will have to hope that Williamson moves mountains once more so we can bat time and post decent totals.
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Feel for Jamieson, he just can't seem to get a lucky break - only bad ones
We had a golden period with Southee and Boult being able to hold everything together but but our attack seems rather thin. Again we will have to hope that Williamson moves mountains once more so we can bat time and post decent totals.
@Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:
Feel for Jamieson, he just can't seem to get a lucky break - only bad ones
We had a golden period with Southee and Boult being able to hold everything together but but our attack seems rather thin. Again we will have to hope that Williamson moves mountains once more so we can bat time and post decent totals.
Yeah but every batsman whose name isn’t Don Bradman has peaks and troughs. He’s just got three hundreds on the trot and judging by the shakiness of the rest of the top order he’ll need more just to compete with this Oz team.
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@Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:
Feel for Jamieson, he just can't seem to get a lucky break - only bad ones
We had a golden period with Southee and Boult being able to hold everything together but but our attack seems rather thin. Again we will have to hope that Williamson moves mountains once more so we can bat time and post decent totals.
Yeah but every batsman whose name isn’t Don Bradman has peaks and troughs. He’s just got three hundreds on the trot and judging by the shakiness of the rest of the top order he’ll need more just to compete with this Oz team.
@MN5 Yeah true however at this stage I have more faith in our batting line up than our bowling.
And as a casual fan I must say I really under-estimate just how good Williamson is, when you take a good look at his record it's not like he's just one of the best in the world but he's starting to join that list as being one of the best of all time, he's up there in some pretty prestigious company (well D Warner and S Smith aside :-))
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@MN5 Yeah true however at this stage I have more faith in our batting line up than our bowling.
And as a casual fan I must say I really under-estimate just how good Williamson is, when you take a good look at his record it's not like he's just one of the best in the world but he's starting to join that list as being one of the best of all time, he's up there in some pretty prestigious company (well D Warner and S Smith aside :-))
@Windows97 said in Black Caps v Australia:
@MN5 Yeah true however at this stage I have more faith in our batting line up than our bowling.
And as a casual fan I must say I really under-estimate just how good Williamson is, when you take a good look at his record it's not like he's just one of the best in the world but he's starting to join that list as being one of the best of all time, he's up there in some pretty prestigious company (well D Warner and S Smith aside :-))
Equally shaky I reckon.
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Henry might also be in doubt for the test series as he has been replaced for the T20Is.
Matt Henry and Tim Seifert have been ruled out of the upcoming KFC T20I series against Australia and will be replaced by Ben Sears and Will Young.
Henry suffered some hip soreness following the 2nd Test against South Africa in Hamilton and will require a short period of rest and strengthening to ensure he is fit for the Tegel Test series against Australia later in the month.
Seifert has been withdrawn from the squad due to a torn abductor suffered while training for Northern Districts earlier in the week.
https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/henry-seifert-ruled-out-of-australia-t20is-sears-and-young-called-in/
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@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.The analogy wasn't perfect, and of course Kylo is 10x the bowler JO was
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.The analogy wasn't perfect, and of course Kylo is 10x the bowler JO was
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@canefan said in Black Caps v Australia:
@booboo said in Black Caps v Australia:
Fuck
https://twitter.com/BLACKCAPS/status/1758590504881574189?t=LBDfBiimvnrz69atAEbgKw&s=19
Starting to look like
Jacob OramShane Bond in disguise. Just can't get him out on the field enough right nowFixed it. Jamieson isnt quite the X-factor bowler that Bond was but he could have been the spear head of our next generation of bowlers. With Boult preferring T20, Wagner and Southee nearing the end of their careers he could have taken over the main bowling role
still can i suppose but generally bowlers who struggle with back injuries never get over them.The analogy wasn't perfect, and of course Kylo is 10x the bowler JO was
what it is is yet another example of a special talented cricketer who's career is likely to be wrecked by injury
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@NTA who do you recommend we hate on now that Davy Warner wont be playing the tests? (just the T20 slap and giggles stuff) or do you recommend we hate on all of them.
Also im assuming your current wicket keeper is 'smart arsey rubs everyone up the wrong way' kind of guy?One last question, has Steve Smith stopped crying over the time he cheated using sandpaper.
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Man that sucks about Jamieson, such a huge loss. The pressure he consistently applies to batsmen makes mistakes from them inevitable, whether they make the mistake against him or another bowler. Very Glen McGrath like and would end up with a similar record if he can get his back right.
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Man that sucks about Jamieson, such a huge loss. The pressure he consistently applies to batsmen makes mistakes from them inevitable, whether they make the mistake against him or another bowler. Very Glen McGrath like and would end up with a similar record if he can get his back right.
@No-Quarter his bounce was ridiculous. Any mishit carried up somewhere. Unusual, and bloody good. We will miss him massively
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@NTA who do you recommend we hate on now that Davy Warner wont be playing the tests? (just the T20 slap and giggles stuff) or do you recommend we hate on all of them.
Also im assuming your current wicket keeper is 'smart arsey rubs everyone up the wrong way' kind of guy?One last question, has Steve Smith stopped crying over the time he cheated using sandpaper.
@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@NTA who do you recommend we hate on now that Davy Warner wont be playing the tests? (just the T20 slap and giggles stuff) or do you recommend we hate on all of them.
I think hate on all of them then figure out which ones you find merely distasteful. Work your way down.
Also im assuming your current wicket keeper is 'smart arsey rubs everyone up the wrong way' kind of guy?
He seems nice to me?
One last question, has Steve Smith stopped crying over the time he cheated using sandpaper.
Probably not. Suggest leaning over the fence and tell him he ran out of batting gloves. See what happens.
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@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@NTA who do you recommend we hate on now that Davy Warner wont be playing the tests? (just the T20 slap and giggles stuff) or do you recommend we hate on all of them.
I think hate on all of them then figure out which ones you find merely distasteful. Work your way down.
Also im assuming your current wicket keeper is 'smart arsey rubs everyone up the wrong way' kind of guy?
He seems nice to me?
One last question, has Steve Smith stopped crying over the time he cheated using sandpaper.
Probably not. Suggest leaning over the fence and tell him he ran out of batting gloves. See what happens.
@NTA said in Black Caps v Australia:
@Virgil said in Black Caps v Australia:
@NTA who do you recommend we hate on now that Davy Warner wont be playing the tests? (just the T20 slap and giggles stuff) or do you recommend we hate on all of them.
I think hate on all of them then figure out which ones you find merely distasteful. Work your way down.
Also im assuming your current wicket keeper is 'smart arsey rubs everyone up the wrong way' kind of guy?
He seems nice to me?
One last question, has Steve Smith stopped crying over the time he cheated using sandpaper.
Probably not. Suggest leaning over the fence and tell him he ran out of batting gloves. See what happens.
Surely Virgil is far too grown up to be heckling Aussie cricketers
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The Australians were subjected to personal and derogatory remarks, prompting Warner to criticise the crowd’s behaviour. Speaking at the time, Warner said what the crowds said was “pretty derogatory and pretty vulgar”.
Apparently Warner thinks that derogatory and vulgar behaviour isn't OK - if it's directed at him.
