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Black Caps v South Africa

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  • MN5M MN5

    Indian and Pakistan fans on Social media having a field day going on about KW being a flat track bully with his two tons against a weak SA team.

    Average of 67 at home with 18 hundreds. Ungodly stats.

    But 13 hundreds away at 45 is still a damn site better than most. Even in this age of slightly inflated batting averages compared to previous eras an average over 40 is a class player.

    Of course there’s no convincing those bone heads of that.

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

    Indian and Pakistan fans on Social media having a field day going on about KW being a flat track bully with his two tons against a weak SA team.

    Average of 67 at home with 18 hundreds. Ungodly stats.

    But 13 hundreds away at 45 is still a damn site better than most. Even in this age of slightly inflated batting averages compared to previous eras an average over 40 is a class player.

    Of course there’s no convincing those bone heads of that.

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-world-test-championship-2019-2021-1195334/india-vs-new-zealand-final-1249875/full-scorecard

    Who scored the most runs in this game - on a not flat track? 🙂

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

      Indian and Pakistan fans on Social media having a field day going on about KW being a flat track bully with his two tons against a weak SA team.

      Average of 67 at home with 18 hundreds. Ungodly stats.

      But 13 hundreds away at 45 is still a damn site better than most. Even in this age of slightly inflated batting averages compared to previous eras an average over 40 is a class player.

      Of course there’s no convincing those bone heads of that.

      https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-world-test-championship-2019-2021-1195334/india-vs-new-zealand-final-1249875/full-scorecard

      Who scored the most runs in this game - on a not flat track? 🙂

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      @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

      @MN5 said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

      Indian and Pakistan fans on Social media having a field day going on about KW being a flat track bully with his two tons against a weak SA team.

      Average of 67 at home with 18 hundreds. Ungodly stats.

      But 13 hundreds away at 45 is still a damn site better than most. Even in this age of slightly inflated batting averages compared to previous eras an average over 40 is a class player.

      Of course there’s no convincing those bone heads of that.

      https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/icc-world-test-championship-2019-2021-1195334/india-vs-new-zealand-final-1249875/full-scorecard

      Who scored the most runs in this game - on a not flat track? 🙂

      I love this photo so much. What a moment.

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        Virat Kohli averages 42.84 away from home.

        Babar Azam 36.86

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          Kane Williamson 100% is the greatest batsmen NZ has produced.And to me stands as the No.1 test batsmen at the moment.I don't always agree with rankings but Kane at No.1 is exactly how it should be.
          Kane has had to bat on seaming pitches here in NZ when we use to produce them, play in foreign conditions a lot more than other test batsmen as we play more tests away than at home atm.

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            There is an argument to be made that due to scheduling/dollars Indian, English and Aus players face more tough competition by playing against each other more often than players outside the top 3.

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              Its not like we have flat tracks over here, we are very seam and swing friendly. Plenty of very good bowlers from other teams have come over and wrecked havoc on our batsmen over the years, think CourtneyWalsh for the Windies in the early 90's. Took 13 wickets for fuck all in Wellington.
              At their peak Wasim and Waqar fucked us over again and again anytime they visited.

              you want your flat tracks, go to Australia or India..

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                @KiwiPie
                That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
                hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

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                @Virgil well done

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                • VirgilV Virgil

                  Its not like we have flat tracks over here, we are very seam and swing friendly. Plenty of very good bowlers from other teams have come over and wrecked havoc on our batsmen over the years, think CourtneyWalsh for the Windies in the early 90's. Took 13 wickets for fuck all in Wellington.
                  At their peak Wasim and Waqar fucked us over again and again anytime they visited.

                  you want your flat tracks, go to Australia or India..

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                  @Virgil as much as loath as i am to start ANOTHER 90s black caps bullshit chat

                  but for like a decade it felt like Pakistan toured every fucking summer, and those two just filled their boots against us.

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                    Not taking anything away from the two Ws. Absolutely legendary fast bowlers…..a more terrifying pair I can’t imagine.

                    …but our two Blairs opening ( Hartland/Pocock, combined career average of 38 ) didn’t offer much resistance

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @Virgil as much as loath as i am to start ANOTHER 90s black caps bullshit chat

                      but for like a decade it felt like Pakistan toured every fucking summer, and those two just filled their boots against us.

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                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                      but for like a decade it felt like Pakistan toured every fucking summer, and those two just filled their boots against us.

                      And they call Kane a flat track bully! 🙂

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                        NZ openers v the 2 Ws:
                        https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?batting_positionmax1=2;batting_positionmin1=1;batting_positionval1=batting_position;class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=runs;player_involve=1775;player_involve=1935;player_involve_type=all;team=5;template=results;type=batting

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                          David Bedingham sounds like he should be a tall, wispy sort of character.

                          Peterson looks like Santner is going to get him out almost every ball.

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                            Bedingham about to hit Matt Henry out of the attack.

                            Once a pie chucker always a pie chucker 😉

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                              This short ball plan seems good in theory - but, in practice, it's been a bit shit!

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                                Southee needs to take himself off 21 conceded off 9 balls

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                                • bayimportsB Do not disturb
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                                  looks like the tea break came at the right time for us

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                                    Jamieson !!!

                                    Can’t keep the big fella down, super bowling.

                                    (Or terrible batting, I’m only going off cricinfo )

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                                      That's a horribly unlucky way to get out. A few millimetres higher and Latham is probably missing the next test with a knee injury.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @Virgil as much as loath as i am to start ANOTHER 90s black caps bullshit chat

                                        but for like a decade it felt like Pakistan toured every fucking summer, and those two just filled their boots against us.

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                                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                        @Virgil as much as loath as i am to start ANOTHER 90s black caps bullshit chat

                                        but for like a decade it felt like Pakistan toured every fucking summer, and those two just filled their boots against us.

                                        They did. I went to a bunch of those one dayers and tests at Eden park in the 90s. We were pumped nearly every time. The ODIs were always low scoring games too
                                        Wasim and Waqar, opening batsmen must have shit their pants when they went out to face them

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                          @KiwiPie
                                          That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
                                          hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

                                          Best on debut is surely Lawrence Rowe.

                                          His first three scores in tests were 214, 100*, 22.

                                          Momentarily he averaged 336 - the highest for a player who has been dismissed at least once*.

                                          *Assuming no-one has surpassed this in recent times - I haven't paid as much attention as I used to.

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                                          @Chris-B said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                          @Virgil said in Black Caps v South Africa Tests:

                                          @KiwiPie
                                          That would be Graham Gooch for the poms
                                          hes scored 300 odd in one bat and followed it with a 100 in his 2nd.

                                          Best on debut is surely Lawrence Rowe.

                                          His first three scores in tests were 214, 100*, 22.

                                          Momentarily he averaged 336 - the highest for a player who has been dismissed at least once*.

                                          *Assuming no-one has surpassed this in recent times - I haven't paid as much attention as I used to.

                                          Not to mention he was allergic to grass which is a bit unfortunate if you’re a test cricketer

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