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    @antipodean said in Aussie Community Rugby:

    @MajorRage said in Aussie Community Rugby:

    One for you @NTA https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/articles/cy0qg92de8vo

    "In my experience, from what I see day to day, Australian rugby union is in fantastic health, when you are on the ground here and you experience the true reality of the [size of the] AFL and rugby league," he tells Rugby Union Weekly.

    "The club game here is in rude health. You just have these two other sports that are thicker in the blood [of the Australian sporting public].

    " If rugby league and AFL didn't exist in this country, I think the Wallabies would be hard pressed to ever lose a game."

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    TBF, while the statement itself is complete hyperbole,

    There are a huge number of incredible athletes with the right body shape in Australia playing AFL and NRL. It isn't all that hard to imagine the quality of the Wallabies if guys like Tino, Haas, Liam Martin up front, and Moses, Hammer etc in the backs grew up playing rugby. Couple of big AFL units would help as well. This country is jam packed with sporting talent, and unfortunately for rugby, they don't get first pick.

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    @mariner4life that's true of every country that plays rugby - most people are playing a different sport.

    And the NRL is over represented by Kiwis and Pasifika these days anyway.

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      i said the right body shape. England's huge soccer playing population isn't going to have the same rugby pool.

      Australia has heaps of islanders, and lots of tall white dudes. Oh and fast as indigenous blokes too.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        i said the right body shape. England's huge soccer playing population isn't going to have the same rugby pool.

        Australia has heaps of islanders, and lots of tall white dudes. Oh and fast as indigenous blokes too.

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        @mariner4life said in Aussie Community Rugby:

        i said the right body shape. England's huge soccer playing population isn't going to have the same rugby pool.

        Australia has heaps of islanders, and lots of tall white dudes. Oh and fast as indigenous blokes too.

        England's soccer players, like other country's soccer players are lightweight because they're playing soccer. They aren't midgets. If they preferred to play rugby they'd have bulked up.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          i said the right body shape. England's huge soccer playing population isn't going to have the same rugby pool.

          Australia has heaps of islanders, and lots of tall white dudes. Oh and fast as indigenous blokes too.

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          @mariner4life said in Aussie Community Rugby:

          i said the right body shape. England's huge soccer playing population isn't going to have the same rugby pool.

          Australia has heaps of islanders, and lots of tall white dudes. Oh and fast as indigenous blokes too.

          i get it, does league have any presense in south africa? dont think so, so doesnt feel like there is direct drain on the "rugby body type" or those that want to play an impact physical sport

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            @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

            they have 4 yellow and a red all for high or no arm tackles...then get in a big prayer circle in the end i assume to ask for forgiveness? ....and are now whinging all over socials about being victims

            I fucking hate that attitude.

            A club I AR'd a few weeks back were total fluffybunnies against our guys, but besides a bit of shit directed at me at the end of the match, it was all onfield so I didn't hear it and couldn't report it. That plus the cannanball tackles at knees, swinging arms, shoulder charges.

            Basically they're pointing at the ref and telling him he's fucked to his face and he did NOTHING about it. And I knew at that point, even if I heard something, it wasn't going to matter because the ref wasn't going to do shit. One of our blokes later told me a player on the other side said "this ref's a useless fluffybunny and that AR is a fluffybunny as well" to his face.

            I call the Comp Administrator - they say to email them the details, which I did, and nada.

            On the weekend I get a request from someone who played the same fluffybunnies on Saturday to send through my report as they've decided - surprise, surprise - to be a bunch of fluffybunnies again.

            Now that it happened to an eastern suburbs club it is suddenly an issue. But when a western sydney club like me reports it? Fuck. All.

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            @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

            A club I AR'd a few weeks back were total fluffybunnies against our guys, but besides a bit of shit directed at me at the end of the match, it was all onfield so I didn't hear it and couldn't report it. That plus the cannanball tackles at knees, swinging arms, shoulder charges.

            So that club of fluffybunnies we played in R7 are going to be at our place Saturday for R14. We've missed finals so we're just looking forward to cracking on with a couple of games and getting back to the pub.

            However, I saw the ref had been booked for both grades, so I volunteered (foolishly?) to referee 2nd Grade - who are the genuine problem children of that particular club.

            Anyway I was just speaking to someone on the Board who said they might re-jig all that to bring a solid group of refs out to make sure they're on their best behaviour. We shall see

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              Anthony Griffin who used to coach Penrith, Broncos and St George has been named as the Eastwood Shute Shield coach for next year.

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                Anthony Griffin who used to coach Penrith, Broncos and St George has been named as the Eastwood Shute Shield coach for next year.

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                @MacDazzler said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                Anthony Griffin who used to coach Penrith, Broncos and St George has been named as the Eastwood Shute Shield coach for next year.

                He was already Director of Rugby at the Woods, so putting an extra hat on there.

                Of course the rumour mill says "everyone" is "appalled" that the existing coach (Dave Telfer) was sacked, particularly as he was Colts Coordinator for a period as well.

                And then the rumour mill turned at the start of the year, saying Telfer was a divisive figure and caused players to leave.

                πŸ™„

                It is way too much intrigue for what is cowshed footy.

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                  @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                  A club I AR'd a few weeks back were total fluffybunnies against our guys, but besides a bit of shit directed at me at the end of the match, it was all onfield so I didn't hear it and couldn't report it. That plus the cannanball tackles at knees, swinging arms, shoulder charges.

                  So that club of fluffybunnies we played in R7 are going to be at our place Saturday for R14. We've missed finals so we're just looking forward to cracking on with a couple of games and getting back to the pub.

                  However, I saw the ref had been booked for both grades, so I volunteered (foolishly?) to referee 2nd Grade - who are the genuine problem children of that particular club.

                  Anyway I was just speaking to someone on the Board who said they might re-jig all that to bring a solid group of refs out to make sure they're on their best behaviour. We shall see

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                  @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                  Anyway I was just speaking to someone on the Board who said they might re-jig all that to bring a solid group of refs out to make sure they're on their best behaviour. We shall see

                  Lot of games rained out across Sydney so we ended up getting a ref for both games.

                  They issue: they just weren't harsh enough. Multiple opportunities for more yellow cards which would have escalated to red fairly quickly and the refs fluffed it. I tried reporting a high tackle in first grade but the ref didn't want to know.

                  However, the union officials who were there saw enough to give them a whole bunch of shit to answer for, and I'm going to cite some of their blokes anyway

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                    yay for having 5 teams playing finals this weekend

                    boooo for having to work out eligability for 5 different grades (6 if you include colts who arenty playing finals but theur games count)

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                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                      yay for having 5 teams playing finals this weekend

                      boooo for having to work out eligability for 5 different grades (6 if you include colts who arenty playing finals but theur games count)

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                      @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                      yay for having 5 teams playing finals this weekend

                      Congratulations! πŸ™‚

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                        boooo for having to work out eligability for 5 different grades (6 if you include colts who arenty playing finals but theur games count)

                        🀣

                        Renegades Club President and I (Secretary) when it became clear we were missing finals this year.

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                        The worst is when your 2nd Grade make it and your 1st Grade doesn't and you're scrambling because guys played 2 games most weeks

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                          boooo for having to work out eligability for 5 different grades (6 if you include colts who arenty playing finals but theur games count)

                          🀣

                          Renegades Club President and I (Secretary) when it became clear we were missing finals this year.

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                          The worst is when your 2nd Grade make it and your 1st Grade doesn't and you're scrambling because guys played 2 games most weeks

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                          @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                          boooo for having to work out eligability for 5 different grades (6 if you include colts who arenty playing finals but theur games count)

                          🀣

                          Renegades Club President and I (Secretary) when it became clear we were missing finals this year.

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                          The worst is when your 2nd Grade make it and your 1st Grade doesn't and you're scrambling because guys played 2 games most weeks

                          yeah we have somethign called the selection integraty rule where even if someone has qualified for 1st grade....if they were starting 2nd they can still be selected...we cant just flood the 2's bench with guys that only played 1st grade

                          but its annoyingly complicated, plus lodging injury/berievment exemptions

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                            @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                            boooo for having to work out eligability for 5 different grades (6 if you include colts who arenty playing finals but theur games count)

                            🀣

                            Renegades Club President and I (Secretary) when it became clear we were missing finals this year.

                            alt text

                            The worst is when your 2nd Grade make it and your 1st Grade doesn't and you're scrambling because guys played 2 games most weeks

                            yeah we have somethign called the selection integraty rule where even if someone has qualified for 1st grade....if they were starting 2nd they can still be selected...we cant just flood the 2's bench with guys that only played 1st grade

                            but its annoyingly complicated, plus lodging injury/berievment exemptions

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                            @Kiwiwomble yeah it can be a pain.

                            In Subbies here we've got "Open Selection" which means if you have consecutive grades playing on the same day, you can pick who you want between those two grades - or more grades if you have them. Of course Colts is different but they are qualified Third Grade if NOT playing Colts.

                            Must be registered by Round 11 (of 14)
                            Must have played 2 separate rounds (i.e. can't qualify playing 2 games on one weekend)

                            After that: your last 7 games.
                            If you start 2s and back up for 1s for 4 weeks, only the 2nd Grade games count etc.
                            If you bench both, only the 1st Grade games count.

                            All sorts of exceptions e.g. if you played two-thirds of the year in a given grade you can get dispensation (maybe the starting hooker was injured and so on)

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                              @Kiwiwomble yeah it can be a pain.

                              In Subbies here we've got "Open Selection" which means if you have consecutive grades playing on the same day, you can pick who you want between those two grades - or more grades if you have them. Of course Colts is different but they are qualified Third Grade if NOT playing Colts.

                              Must be registered by Round 11 (of 14)
                              Must have played 2 separate rounds (i.e. can't qualify playing 2 games on one weekend)

                              After that: your last 7 games.
                              If you start 2s and back up for 1s for 4 weeks, only the 2nd Grade games count etc.
                              If you bench both, only the 1st Grade games count.

                              All sorts of exceptions e.g. if you played two-thirds of the year in a given grade you can get dispensation (maybe the starting hooker was injured and so on)

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                              @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                              @Kiwiwomble yeah it can be a pain.

                              In Subbies here we've got "Open Selection" which means if you have consecutive grades playing on the same day, you can pick who you want between those two grades - or more grades if you have them. Of course Colts is different but they are qualified Third Grade if NOT playing Colts.

                              Must be registered by Round 11 (of 14)
                              Must have played 2 separate rounds (i.e. can't qualify playing 2 games on one weekend)

                              After that: your last 7 games.
                              If you start 2s and back up for 1s for 4 weeks, only the 2nd Grade games count etc.
                              If you bench both, only the 1st Grade games count.

                              All sorts of exceptions e.g. if you played two-thirds of the year in a given grade you can get dispensation (maybe the starting hooker was injured and so on)

                              sounds very similar....and complicated

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                                Easy for 2 Grades. Fucking nightmare for 3+ I imagine.

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                                  Easy for 2 Grades. Fucking nightmare for 3+ I imagine.

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                                  @NTA yeah, im stretching it a little as the women are obviously seperate

                                  but had a lot of learning, Colts are considered the same level as 2's for example...but when the colts season finished we started filtering most colts through 4's and 3's....but now most are locked out of those grades as they all had +8 games at a "higher" level

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                                    4 from 5 wins so 1st, Women, 2nd and 3rd grade through to the grand final on satuarday

                                    4th grade lost in the final play so gutting for them

                                    We go again πŸ‘‘

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                                      Good stuff. And you get to look forward to it being the last week of the season! πŸ™‚

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                                        Good stuff. And you get to look forward to it being the last week of the season! πŸ™‚

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                                        @NTA said in Aussie Community Rugby:

                                        Good stuff. And you get to look forward to it being the last week of the season! πŸ™‚

                                        all going well ive cleaned the jersesy for the last time

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                                          We've got a Committee meeting tonight and I've started tapping people on the shoulder to join πŸ™‚

                                          President has announced next year is his last in the seat 😞 so we need to get some new blood into the system.

                                          Fortunately a few of the Mormon guys are keen. They love the club and I don't even care what their aims are for World Domination πŸ˜‰

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