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@Crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I have lived in the grammar zone for most of the last 20 years and regardless of whether their kids are suited to the school or not parents crawl over broken glass to rent the kind of tiny flat this lady said she lets just so their sons can go to grammar. This feels like a beat up, the kid is 11 so at least two years away from even attending high school. This is not about education, mummy's got an axe to grind
and the grand ma.
Like I said before inter generational attitude of 'fuck those who make up rules'
and that's a bad thing? I thought that's exactly how society progresses.
Sure, change demands must be debated and dismissed if shown to be not for the overall good but they should not just be dismissed out of hand by saying 'them's the rules, suck it up'
I agree with you about the squeaky wheel thing, I never meant anything other than questioning the right things at the right times. In this case I think they are doing just that. They are questioning the fairness and reasonableness of a rule that is forcing them to move house to get an education.
Yes, she has an axe to grind with the whole grandfather thing but somewhere along the line this type of school rule will get challenged against the Bill of Rights and I think the schools will findthey are on the losing side. It is a matter of time before someone shouts long enough and hard enough.
Christ on a bike, it's just his haircut not his skin colour, gender or sexuality. The school has standards for the appearance of its students and obviously considers this to be important. That might be old fashioned and strict, but those are the rules and every one knows them before they enrol there.
At any rate, the kid needs a bloody haircut. He looks like farking Maria Sharapova.
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I have lived in the grammar zone for most of the last 20 years and regardless of whether their kids are suited to the school or not parents crawl over broken glass to rent the kind of tiny flat this lady said she lets just so their sons can go to grammar. This feels like a beat up, the kid is 11 so at least two years away from even attending high school. This is not about education, mummy's got an axe to grind
and the grand ma.
Like I said before inter generational attitude of 'fuck those who make up rules'
and that's a bad thing? I thought that's exactly how society progresses.
Sure, change demands must be debated and dismissed if shown to be not for the overall good but they should not just be dismissed out of hand by saying 'them's the rules, suck it up'
I agree with you about the squeaky wheel thing, I never meant anything other than questioning the right things at the right times. In this case I think they are doing just that. They are questioning the fairness and reasonableness of a rule that is forcing them to move house to get an education.
Yes, she has an axe to grind with the whole grandfather thing but somewhere along the line this type of school rule will get challenged against the Bill of Rights and I think the schools will findthey are on the losing side. It is a matter of time before someone shouts long enough and hard enough.
Christ on a bike, it's just his haircut not his skin colour, gender or sexuality. The school has standards for the appearance of its students and obviously considers this to be important. That might be old fashioned and strict, but those are the rules and every one knows them before they enrol there.
At any rate, the kid needs a bloody haircut. He looks like farking Maria Sharapova.
I bet the dirty scamp isn't even vaccinated.....
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@Crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I have lived in the grammar zone for most of the last 20 years and regardless of whether their kids are suited to the school or not parents crawl over broken glass to rent the kind of tiny flat this lady said she lets just so their sons can go to grammar. This feels like a beat up, the kid is 11 so at least two years away from even attending high school. This is not about education, mummy's got an axe to grind
and the grand ma.
Like I said before inter generational attitude of 'fuck those who make up rules'
and that's a bad thing? I thought that's exactly how society progresses.
Sure, change demands must be debated and dismissed if shown to be not for the overall good but they should not just be dismissed out of hand by saying 'them's the rules, suck it up'
I agree with you about the squeaky wheel thing, I never meant anything other than questioning the right things at the right times. In this case I think they are doing just that. They are questioning the fairness and reasonableness of a rule that is forcing them to move house to get an education.
Yes, she has an axe to grind with the whole grandfather thing but somewhere along the line this type of school rule will get challenged against the Bill of Rights and I think the schools will findthey are on the losing side. It is a matter of time before someone shouts long enough and hard enough.
It is to complex to say if that is a bad thing or a good thing, I think if it leads you to the point there you parade a minor on the national media because he doesn't want a haircut, yeah it is a bad thing.
Society doesnt progress because children dont want haircuts.
And you make an interesting assumption on the Bill of Rights. I disagree with it. -
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I have lived in the grammar zone for most of the last 20 years and regardless of whether their kids are suited to the school or not parents crawl over broken glass to rent the kind of tiny flat this lady said she lets just so their sons can go to grammar. This feels like a beat up, the kid is 11 so at least two years away from even attending high school. This is not about education, mummy's got an axe to grind
and the grand ma.
Like I said before inter generational attitude of 'fuck those who make up rules'
and that's a bad thing? I thought that's exactly how society progresses.
Sure, change demands must be debated and dismissed if shown to be not for the overall good but they should not just be dismissed out of hand by saying 'them's the rules, suck it up'
I agree with you about the squeaky wheel thing, I never meant anything other than questioning the right things at the right times. In this case I think they are doing just that. They are questioning the fairness and reasonableness of a rule that is forcing them to move house to get an education.
Yes, she has an axe to grind with the whole grandfather thing but somewhere along the line this type of school rule will get challenged against the Bill of Rights and I think the schools will findthey are on the losing side. It is a matter of time before someone shouts long enough and hard enough.
It is to complex to say if that is a bad thing or a good thing, I think if it leads you to the point there you parade a minor on the national media because he doesn't want a haircut, yeah it is a bad thing.
Society doesnt progress because children dont want haircuts.
And you make an interesting assumption on the Bill of Rights. I disagree with it.Which assumption? That rules regarding hair possibly being at odds to the BoRs or that someone will have a crack on that basis?
This is what the judge in that other case said..."Justice David Collins concluded that any school would need to give "very careful consideration" as to whether any hair rule would breach a student's rights to "autonomy, individual dignity and his rights to freedom of expression" affirmed by s14 of the Bill of Human Rights Act.
He didn't need to go there and make that ruling though because the school's wording wasn't clear on its rules.
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I guess if a kiddie fiddler has rights about wearing a rug, a boy has the right to look like a girl.
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@Crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Crucial said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Baron-Silas-Greenback said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
I have lived in the grammar zone for most of the last 20 years and regardless of whether their kids are suited to the school or not parents crawl over broken glass to rent the kind of tiny flat this lady said she lets just so their sons can go to grammar. This feels like a beat up, the kid is 11 so at least two years away from even attending high school. This is not about education, mummy's got an axe to grind
and the grand ma.
Like I said before inter generational attitude of 'fuck those who make up rules'
and that's a bad thing? I thought that's exactly how society progresses.
Sure, change demands must be debated and dismissed if shown to be not for the overall good but they should not just be dismissed out of hand by saying 'them's the rules, suck it up'
I agree with you about the squeaky wheel thing, I never meant anything other than questioning the right things at the right times. In this case I think they are doing just that. They are questioning the fairness and reasonableness of a rule that is forcing them to move house to get an education.
Yes, she has an axe to grind with the whole grandfather thing but somewhere along the line this type of school rule will get challenged against the Bill of Rights and I think the schools will findthey are on the losing side. It is a matter of time before someone shouts long enough and hard enough.
It is to complex to say if that is a bad thing or a good thing, I think if it leads you to the point there you parade a minor on the national media because he doesn't want a haircut, yeah it is a bad thing.
Society doesnt progress because children dont want haircuts.
And you make an interesting assumption on the Bill of Rights. I disagree with it.Which assumption? That rules regarding hair possibly being at odds to the BoRs or that someone will have a crack on that basis?
This is what the judge in that other case said..."Justice David Collins concluded that any school would need to give "very careful consideration" as to whether any hair rule would breach a student's rights to "autonomy, individual dignity and his rights to freedom of expression" affirmed by s14 of the Bill of Human Rights Act.
He didn't need to go there and make that ruling though because the school's wording wasn't clear on its rules.
Your assumption that the school would be on the losing side.
" will get challenged against the Bill of Rights and I think the schools will findthey are on the losing side"
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Has Hillary Barry given us her thoughts on the hair debate yet?
She was pissed off that dog got shot cos being an expert she woulda handled it so much better obviously. I think Dame Susan Devoy could be the Hilary Barry of 2017. She has to stick her mush in everything and create a race war when there isn't one.
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maybe Turmeric is so good for her, she has gone to a better place?
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@Tim said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
So what's the problem? She had eczema and now she doesn't have to worry about that anymore. What more could the doctor have done?
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@Tim said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
The reporter: 'a lot of people use it as a daily health supplement, some people use it as spice on their food'
Well, that says everything.
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Has Hillary Barry given us her thoughts on the hair debate yet?
I guessing its a really slow news day in NZ if this is in the paper. No wildlife break out of any paddocks or anything that they could have reported on instead?
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@JC said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Tim said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
So what's the problem? She had eczema and now she doesn't have to worry about that anymore. What more could the doctor have done?
Stupidest thing is that it has nothing to do with whether Tumeric is dangerous or effective. The 'doctor' missed the basic step of checking for allergic reaction. Dumbass.
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@mooshld said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Has Hillary Barry given us her thoughts on the hair debate yet?
I guessing its a really slow news day in NZ if this is in the paper. No wildlife break out of any paddocks or anything that they could have reported on instead?
A fish and chip shop isn't doing so well since a new road was put through.
All jokes aside I'm stoked to live in a country where this sort of thing dominates the headlines rather than the latest terrorist outrage or government corruption etcetera
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@taniwharugby Tell them to stop reading The Guardian.
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