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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@booboo said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Anyone know the the angle with the likes of these articles ? Is it a case of the editor going "ok, write something as bitter, spiteful and resentful as you can and watch the clicks come in"......
I'm somewhat surprised TSF has been dragnetted by this article.
Dragnetted? The thread title is describes stuff as shit and the discussion is about the shit they post masquerading as news. We could talk about the trend over the past few months of them putting up headlines that make you think they are in NZ but when you click on them it turns out they are on the other side of the world. I'm guessing people are getting gunshy of clicking on those so they've gone to defcon 5 and got someone to write six miserable articles about NZ, next week they'll have someone rebutting it .
Anyway, if you've seen a photo of her would you?My point being it was a pretty blatent trolling exercise. She (and stuff) went fishing and caught TSF.
Haven't seen picture. Didn't read past 3rd para.
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@No-Quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@booboo said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Anyone know the the angle with the likes of these articles ? Is it a case of the editor going "ok, write something as bitter, spiteful and resentful as you can and watch the clicks come in"......
I'm somewhat surprised TSF has been dragnetted by this article.
There's nothing to be outraged about in the sports thread so we've gotta try and find something else...
fucking this! what else have we got to froth about? The warriors are done for the year (in predictable fashion), there's no cricket, the RC is dangerously close to being a 3-continent AB world cup victory parade, so we found this. MR even helped out by taking the opposite view.
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Well, cricket is starting pretty soon and it's gonna be a fucken tough tour for the boys in the sub continent.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback Totally read the article (both of them) and I'm not saying they shouldn't be criticized where appropriate.
Reality of media these days, all media, is that nobody makes a point without going totally over the top. Nobody clicks on a fence sitting headline, nobody cares about a fence sitting position.
I also think if you look at the comments written before and after my little spiel/tantrum there is quite a change in attitude too.
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@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Well, cricket is starting pretty soon and it's gonna be a fucken tough tour for the boys in the sub continent.
we'll get reamed, but gollum will help out by posting Patel's T20 stats from England, someone will counter with the cowardice angle, and then Southee will be shit, and the circle will begin again (although we've been robbed of the real venom by a glorious couple of years we are still on a high from)
@MajorRage i don't think the attitudes changed, more we moved on from straight abuse to trying to have a grown up conversation about it. We can go back to the name calling if you want kiwihater
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Well if we lose this weekend the build up of spite being released is going to be something to behold .
If we win can Nepia or someone else with a pr log in go and tell Winger on their 9/11 thread there's a new climate change post up and so far everyone agrees the earth is warming ?
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@mariner4life You don't think it's changed? I guess you are a dim-witted dumb arse Queenslander these days ...
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@MajorRage said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@mariner4life You don't think it's changed? I guess you are a dim-witted dumb arse Queenslander these days ...
read again hater, i said it had changed, but not because you piped up.
Are you having a go at me because i am not living in a major city, and i love rugby and beer? Do you write for Stuff Nation?
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@MajorRage
No I disagree with your basic premise, which appears to be we should just accept hatred and lies as long as there is something remotely associated to a truth also hiding in there somewhere... no matter how vaguely. I am still of the school of thought that if someone talks bollox and makes stuff up which is insulting to large groups of innocent people.. that person should be told to fuck off until they can make their point in a better way. Just because she claims to have a shit childhood... that doesnt actually give her permission to slag off every male in NZ. That sort of blanket male blaming leading to a society where young men commit suicide in record numbers every fucking year, mysandric bitches like her that add to the narrative that all young men are worthless pieces of women hating crap ...just make the situation worse.
Men need to grow a fucking back bone and stop putting up with sort of narrative, if a similar article to this was written about females and clumping them all together.. the reaction would be overwhelming from the sisterhood.. it would probably be on One News.People are not rejecting all the claims she makes, but they are saying that it is layered in sop much shit and hatred that it makes the entire article a waste of time and one that should be deleted, or at least ignored.
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Any article that starts with:
Small-town New Zealand is one of the most misogynistic cultures I've ever seen - and I've lived in Saudi Arabia. Saudi women may live under permanent house arrest, but I will say that the culture does cherish (an admittedly extremely limited definition of) femininity. Small-town New Zealand has a much simpler attitude; it doesn't like or value girls or women, full stop.cannot be taken seriously. Fucking Saudi Arabia? Christ on a bike. Just fuck off.
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@Baron-Silas-Greenback Fair points but that comes down to my second point. Would anybody have read / discussed / thought about aspects of this article if there wasn't the shock (i.e bullshit) factor? Fair enough people are calling the but some of the comments before I called it out were right up the alley of the stuff she is writing about.
For the rest, we'll have to agree to disagree.
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@MajorRage
If the KKK wrote an article saying that Blacks are worthless because the shapes of their skulls make them less intelligent than whites.. but also mentioned how much black on black crime their is... it would be similar. Just because you throw a little abstract 'fact' in there does not make the actual any more deserving of discussion and a MSM platform. -
My best mates, within days of arriving on their OE went across to Calais and then headed toward Paris.
While there they pulled into a petrol station to ask for directions, a fella who was in the petrol station offered to show them where to go.
Turned out he was a local thug, son of some Mafia type....pulled a gun on my mates, mate them drive around to a bunch of ATMs to withdraw money, worse still (to my mate) was he stole his brand new AB jersey) eventually got them to drop him off at some dodgy looking placem, telling them it would be in their interests to not speak to the police...
Moral of the story?
Small towns in France are run by criminals!
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@taniwharugby I bet the criminal was a male. All males are criminals.
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@Bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Routine sexual violence is an integral part of rugby culture? What the fucking fuck? Where was I when all this was going on?
@MN5 I believe it's Dr Network News.
shukraan.......شكرا
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@MajorRage i don't think the attitudes changed, more we moved on from straight abuse to trying to have a grown up conversation about it. We can go back to the name calling if you want kiwihater
@mariner4life said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MajorRage said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@mariner4life You don't think it's changed? I guess you are a dim-witted dumb arse Queenslander these days ...
read again hater, i said it had changed, but not because you piped up.
Do we still have the :NTA emoticon available ... ?
I'm not picking on anybody, I just think that this is not necessarily such a shit idea from stuff. Everybody learns a damn site more from criticism than praise.
An although I certainly acknowledge that the stuff being pointed out in NZ happens in other countries, it doesn't make it any less shit that it's happening at home.
Do people think 8 year old Michael in Morrinsville who got his arse kicked today and his lunch money stolen by a bigger boy trying to prove he was tough (proving the opposite to all mature people) takes solace that Mikael in Minsk has the same issue in his country?
Look, I can see why people got up in arms, as some of the shit spouted was clearly that. But I still think it's a worthwhile exercise.
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@Bones said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Routine sexual violence is an integral part of rugby culture? What the fucking fuck? Where was I when all this was going on?
@MN5 I believe it's Dr Network News.
On the block?
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@mariner4life That only ever happened at the cricket club.
