Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz
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@Donsteppa
haha yeah he is a giant turd, but I don't think he murdered her, doesn't the very definition of murder require pre-meditation and I would expect direct involvement, ie actually pushing her??Surely manslaughter woulda been much easier to prove, but I guess they had their reasons for going for murder?
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Donsteppa
haha yeah he is a giant turd, but I don't think he murdered her, doesn't the very definition of murder require pre-meditation and I would expect direct involvement, ie actually pushing her??Surely manslaughter woulda been much easier to prove, but I guess they had their reasons for going for murder?
I think they're considering both murder and manslaughter.
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@Donsteppa I guess that comes down to the reporting of it again as most of the NZ Media I have seen talk about the murder trial??
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Yep, stuff and NZH are definitely angling that it should be murder. Several sides to it, all ridden with bias: NZer dies in Aussie's apartment, big boastful sex pest vs petite woman, moralising over the Tinder generation.
But, I haven't read any other publications which are pro-Tostee. He's kind of poison.
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@Tregaskis Even if he gets off he will have to deal with the notoriety. Perhaps he can bunk in with Keith Murdoch?
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@canefan dude will end up with loads of nutters wanting some action then!
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@taniwharugby Life's too short for too much of this
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@canefan again, not by how the media are portraying him, he is probably loving it!
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@taniwharugby Soon after the charge he certainly seemed to be revelling in it.
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WTF....makes you wonder what will be come of the kids!
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11732529
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@taniwharugby feral is as feral does
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@taniwharugby said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Donsteppa
haha yeah he is a giant turd, but I don't think he murdered her, doesn't the very definition of murder require pre-meditation and I would expect direct involvement, ie actually pushing her??Surely manslaughter woulda been much easier to prove, but I guess they had their reasons for going for murder?
even manslaughter seems odd - wouldn't it set a dangerous precedent for anyone doing something stupid when they're hammered and getting killed - whoever is with them at fault?
I could understand if he had her bent over the balcony and pounded her over the edge by accident... but locking someone on your balcony? You're not exactly in life threatening danger are you.. he wasn't coming after her he chucked her out there to calm down
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@WillieTheWaiter I just dont get why he didnt chuck her out of the door into the hall, rather the deck...I guess the thing is, his actions have lead to her death.
Result due out shortly I believe
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Not guilty of either was the verdict.
A good verdict might have been "Not Guilty But You're Still A Piece Of Shit"
Locking someone who is wound up out on a high balcony to "calm down" is at best fucking thick. As @taniwharugby notes, much better the hallway!
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not entirely surprised by either verdict, but when you hear some of the audio it certainly makes it odd that he pushed her onto the balcony when she was trying to leave...
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Cue every feminist bitch on Social media reading the verdict and whinging that he's scum and should be locked up cos naturally they've dealt with every confrontational situation they've ever been in calmly, rationally and made perfect decisions everytime. Yawn.
Granted the guy does come across as a fucken Grade A dickwad but he didn't deserve to go down for what happened.
