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All Blacks vs England I

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  • MN5M MN5

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.

    Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

    I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.

    Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?

    Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that

    However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best

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    • MN5M MN5

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

      I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.

      Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?

      He did play well in the Super Rugby playoffs. He makes good decisions on counter attack, sees space well and has good speed and footwork to set up breaks for himself and others. High ball work was good in the playoffs at 15.

      He also offers another kicking option and has a good variety of kicks.

      Can operate as a second pivot option coming in at first receiver.

      That's what I would say him at his best is.

      Appreciate the feedback.

      Looks very frail to me, hopefully this isn’t the case

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      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

      I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.

      Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?

      He did play well in the Super Rugby playoffs. He makes good decisions on counter attack, sees space well and has good speed and footwork to set up breaks for himself and others. High ball work was good in the playoffs at 15.

      He also offers another kicking option and has a good variety of kicks.

      Can operate as a second pivot option coming in at first receiver.

      That's what I would say him at his best is.

      Appreciate the feedback.

      Looks very frail to me, hopefully this isn’t the case

      Yeah that would be the downside. Physicality, he tends to be flakey and he
      hasn't impressed in his admittedly very limited test minutes so far.

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      • antipodeanA Offline
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        antipodean
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        Fairly predictable team given the squad and limited preparation time.

        Looking forward to seeing the evolution of our play.

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        • F foobaNZ

          Ratima on a dry track behind that pack partnered with DMac woulda been my go.

          TJ and Christie don't do much for me.

          I like the 15, for the most part, but, when Jordan & Roigard return it will be significantly better.

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          @foobaNZ said in All Blacks vs England I:

          I like the 15, for the most part, but, when Jordan & Roigard return it will be significantly better.

          100%

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:

            @frugby

            or a choir boy

            This is why I didn’t want to go to St Pats college

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            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

            @Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:

            @frugby

            or a choir boy

            This is why I didn’t want to go to St Pats college

            You'd have to wait until he retires from AB duty..(and gets a sainthood .. they're rare in Auckland)

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              I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

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                nostrildamus
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                Conservative squad apart from 6 and 15... Hope locks are aok!

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                  I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                  Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

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                    Frank
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                    #319

                    From memory, Perofeta shat the bed with his goalkicking (or was it high ball reception as well?) in one game and then got injured. It'll be good for Jordan to have competition for the 15 jersey because he is not the finished product at 15.

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                    • WingerW Winger

                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks vs England I:

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                      England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey

                      But its likely the best and safest option to start the first test. And if everyone clicks and plays at their best, esp TJ and Damian, they could have a VG start. However ...

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                      @Winger said in All Blacks vs England I:

                      England won't be in fear of this team. And the 'nice boy' jersey

                      That jersey is a psychological masterstroke for England.

                      It has an Eton collar - so if things are going badly for us, we only need say in lordly tones, "I say old chap, how dare you tackle me. Naff off" - and the English will lie down before us.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                        Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

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                        @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                        I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                        Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

                        Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.

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                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                          Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

                          Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.

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                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                          I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                          Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

                          Pessimistic. His worst effort was a penalty for being a step late. Home crowd should influence the ref to penalise Marcus.

                          It is coming

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                          • DuluthD Duluth

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.

                            Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?

                            Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that

                            However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best

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                            Kiwiwomble
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                            @Duluth said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            I'm pleased Perofeta will start in the sense that at least it's something interesting and different to watch out for.

                            Not being the most avid Super rugby watcher can anyone tell me what he brings to the table at his best ?

                            Organises the counter attack well, puts people in space. Can be used as a second play maker. He has something deceptive with his centre of balance that allows him to get through tackles that he shouldn't.. for a small guy he makes a lot of line breaks like that

                            However we haven't seen much of that this year because of injuries and his form hasn't been the best

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                            Fairly predictable team given the squad and limited preparation time.

                            Looking forward to seeing the evolution of our play.

                            agreed, if what @Duluth says is true it could be a nice change, maybe more of a structured counter actually working to connect with options rather than the "up the guts" approach

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                              Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

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                              KiwiMurph
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                              #324

                              @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                              I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                              Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

                              Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....

                              Oh wait....

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                                Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

                                Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....

                                Oh wait....

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                                Chris
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                                #325

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                I hope when Marcus Smith gets folded by Finau he drifts deeper and deeper until he's hiding behind the fullback.

                                Or Finau misreads the hit and is red carded 50/50.

                                Yeah bring back Frizell and his amazing disciplinary record... or the captain's amazing disciplinary record....

                                Oh wait....

                                Ok then 2 red cards

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                                  frugby
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                                  #326

                                  Finau will be fine for the first test... the bigger worry is when Brett Cronan gets involved for the second test.

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                                    No Quarter
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                                    Finau does like to fold backs in half, and there is always risk associated with that if he gets it slightly wrong. And in the modern game, with fans always baying for cards, particularly if it's big man vs little man, it's going to end in yellow or red sooner rather than later. Cards have been a huge issue for the ABs recently so I am hoping this current coaching group can get that part right across the board, not just with Finau.

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                                      mencey
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                                      #328

                                      When the fuck is Jordan and Roigard coming back?

                                      Anyone know? Thx

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                                        No Quarter
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                                        #329

                                        Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.

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                                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                          Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.

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                                          Kiwiwomble
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                                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs England I:

                                          Oh, and I am really looking forward to seeing what Pat T can do. His form this year was outstanding, if he can translate any of that to the test arena he and SB could form a potent combo for us.

                                          i really hope so, he's had a few chances before thought so im not holding my breath

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